Soviet Cops
Those are policemen back from Soviet times.
They say that time policemen were more honest than now…
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Russian police has always been brutal to the people.
True. The method of choice for any police force in the world is brutality.
They didn’t seem too honest to me. Maybe it’s better to say they are worse crooks now than in soviet times.
True.
They have always been crooks or rapists. Or do the dirty work of the mafia/government. Russian cops/USSR cops are the same dirty f uckers who ruin the countries reputation and its people.
False.
what a nice set of propaganda PR photos… nicely staged :O
Why can’t Russian people just collectively demand something serious be done about corruption and abuse? The police should be working FOR the people - the law-abiding, tax-paying citizens. The good citizens are their employers. Wide scale protests are necessary. Here’s an idea: get enough people (hundreds of thousands) to say they won’t pay any taxes until the government gives the people the ethical police force (and professional, non-conscript military) they deserve. Why pay the government when it is not doing its job? They can’t lock you all up and government needs the money. This will accomplish two things:
i) Put some fear into the government not to push around its citizens anymore; and
ii) Build confidence in Russian democracy - or if it fails, expose the rulers as undemocratic thugs.
I dunno if its quite that easy, I’d hate to see the governments reaction to a protest that size with the refusal to pay taxes. (Not that sacrifices arent necessary in ensuring ones rights, but I would be pretty freaked by what Putin might pull) Also, I think part of the horrid corruption of Russian cops is their terrible wages, so withholding paying your taxes probably wouldn’t do too much excpet piss them off more. But yeah, somethings gotta be done
Nice name you gave yourself.
Russian people collectively getting something changed? Russian people paying taxes? Haha.
But seriously, the problem is Russian cops come from the Russian population, they are not imported from some developed country where they grew up in an a system of good values.
Russias give and take bribes, and are not very covert about it, like in more developed societies. The culture is very corrupt. It’s just the way it is.
It’s not something that can be changed with a strike, a riot, a petition or a new law. Change will come when different people take the positions, and intelligentsia doesn’t exactly want to stand in the middle of a cold intersection directing traffic.
Russians simply can’t get used to and don’t know how to deal with the idea that in a democracy, THEY are in charge - they elect the government and the government first and foremost is a service provider to the people who elected it. As most people know, this is not the case in Russia.
Russians appear to be masochists, who prefer to have a ’strong government’ [read: a suppressing superstructure]. They do not grasp the idea that they are, technically speaking, in charge of the country. Instead, they elect people that suppress them, are corrupt and powerhungry. Who don’t deal with things like keeping roads in good shape, building a good infrastructure [so farmers can bring their harvest to the markets i.e. and make a decent living], and creating equal opportunities for the people to build their lives. Instead there is massive corruption in the building blocks of the society itself [police, military, government], and the outlooks for a change are IMO pretty bad. Because it has to come from the people themselves and they are so numbed [after centuries of slavery [until 1862 - and then the Soviet police state 1917-1990] they simply don’t know how to act anymore or so it seems. Politics in Russia is based on charismatic people and people with unlimited money to back them up [read: criminals/oligarchs; worse than in the US even] instead of being based on a conviction or ethical belief.
Russia is now in the top 10 of countries with the highest national income - but the average russian doesn’t benifit from that - most of the money ends up in the pockets of a few nouveau riche crooks who in general leave russia asap and spend it in Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, the UK, anywhere except in russia.
Who saves Russia ?
Americans can’t figure that out either and we’ve had democracy longer than any other country.
Remember Russians were never used to freedom. They always were slaves. The serfs were liberated only in 1861, and the reform was poorly implemented. Shortly after that the country decided to folow a group of people trying to create a regime where you must work for free according to your abilities, and all your real needs are fulfilled for free, or basically “benevolent” slavery. The next liberation came just a few years ago and it’s hard to expect the general public to get used to the new state of affairs quickly. This will take several generations, and will only succeed in case of no return to slave ideology.
I like you guys all speculate about freedom.
Freedom is just a logical abstract, and it is not about being “democratic” or “all the way US guys do”. Freedom is not a goal, it`s just a mean for reaching goal.
And goal is about being ok, doing what you like to do, and not turning someone`s life into hell.
That’s exactly what Russians (en masse) have never been used to.
Another root of this is in Russian kind of Orthodox Christianity, which is primarily about feeling guilt and remorse for your sins and asking God to fix you and direct you. Not about avoiding sins in the first place.
ah, an american
No side arms (guns) in the picture, except the diagram on a wall in a radio dispatch room. Was it really like that?
Yes, and it was a real shock to me when in 1990s I for the first time had seen policemen (militioneers) with guns and batons.
y u need this site
y u public only pure people or old ussr photos
y r u not post something normal, only bad
u can find alot of the bad things in UK USa
but there are the good things 2
same in russia
How does the dogs win the medals?
How do I shot web?
Why some assholes write here that Soviet police was bad? Did you live in Soviet Union? Yes, it’s fucking corrupted now, but it was very responsible back then and people could rely on it, policemen were respected by people.
So, if you don’t know - don’t write stupid things.
Totally agree. All those brainwashed by US propaganda assholes don’t have a clue about SU. Stupid rednecks! Soviet cops were the best cops back then. Very reliable and honest. With high moral and close to community. Everything changed after collapse of SU in 90s. When f***s from “West” advise us about “democracy” and “liberty”. Back then cops didn’t have enough money to feed their families. U cant judge them fat McDonald’s asses. Thx new president things are changing right now. All those cases and FSB operation against corrupted cops.
I remember a story told in my family, dates back to soviet times. A friend of the family had to go on business trips every now and then [he lived in Leningrad] and very often when he got back, his apartment had been robbed or he could see strangers had been there.
He reported it to the police and they told him that if he had to go again on a trip they would keep an extra eye open in that area. Next time he was to go on a trip, a relative told him “why not prepare a surprise for the burglars - fill an empty vodka bottle with something poisonous and put it in an easy to see spot.” He thought it would be a good idea and so he did do it. When he returned from his trip a few weeks later, he found in his apartment 2 dead policemen ! Straight away he went to the police HQ and reported it, only to be arrested himself for murder [!!] Sad thing is that he was prosecuted and sentenced to be sent to Siberia for forced labor [which in many cases means' death']. He did never return. Soviets considered it impossible for a policeman to break the law, so the citizen was automatically guilty.
Corrupt policeman are everywhere. Sad to say that nowadays the Russian policeforce together with some S-American banana republics is the most corrupt in the world. If only the government would pay them better… who can live on a meager 300-500 dollars p/month ?
A joke told quite often in Russia :
A guy joins the police force and starts enthusiastically doing his job. After a few months his superior finds out that they forgot to put him on the payroll so he didn’t get any salary. He calls him in and says ‘Iwan, we are very sorry but something went wrong with your salary the past months.’ Iwan looks at him, puzzled, and says :’ Salary ? Actually, I thought that after I got my uniform, my gun and my club I was self supporting..’
The first story seems exaggerated to me though the last one is absolutely true) Those “street cops” are awful and most people judge the police by the actions of those morons…
“A friend of the family had to go on business trips every now and then [he lived in Leningrad]”
Business was illegal in SU. So there could not be business trips. Got lost in time? U probably talking about early 90s. That then all the problems start.
In SU even if you found burglars in your house you cant kill them unless they are trying to kill you. So action of your friend can be recognized as murder. And it doesn’t matter if they were cops or not.
Maybe he wanted to say “job trips” instead of “business trips”, and job was not illegal in those times. Not every people worked in factories, there were engineers, truck drivers, and a lot of jobs in those times. Don’t be so taliban ;).
I guarantee the story is 100 % true.
He didn’t kill the burglars. He took an empty vodka bottle, filled it with weedkiller or a similar poison and kept it in the kitchen. Like many people do. That a burglar drinks it cannot be held against him I would say. And he did go on trips, don’t know what for, I’m talking about end of 80’s here.
I am a lawyer and i can tell you that this could be considered as a criminal act cos he put poison with a intention to harm burglar as was advised by his relative.
End of 80s - beginning of 90s is not really Soviet time. Pictures are from 70s. I am sure those cops were very professional and honest. Not all of course. There are always rats in any country at any time. But those times were somewhat different for Soviet people.
All those brainwashed by US propaganda assholes don’t have a clue about SU.
There is no propaganda about SU here in the US. Actually, most people just don’t care. Most people here don’t even care much about their own country, so they’re not worried about you at all.
Well. I do read US newspapers and I should say there is propaganda now and its always been about SU/Russia. I am not talking about US TV(Fox, CNN - it does not matter).
There isn’t any propaganda about Russia in the United States. Why would there be propaganda? Russia isn’t a threat to us. Right now, there are a few minor things that the United States is upset with Russia about. However, the European community is upset with Russia for the same things.
You are so naive. If u don’t see it, that doesn’t mean it doesnt exist. Just read headlines of American newspaper day after Putin criticize US for obvious things.
Reporting of speech by foreign leader is not propaganda, it is news.
I agree with Losha. They reported a speech that he made which criticized Bush. Basically, Putin is angry because the US placed missile destroying rockets into former USSR countries. However, nobody really cares. What makes that propaganda?
Los Angeles Times: “Putin: the louse that roared” - is just one of examples of new propaganda attack. And I am not going to argue with people who still believe that US media shows the truth. U probably still believe that US fighting War on Terrorism and trying to give freedom and democracy to the middle east? Enough lies!!!
I never thought that we were fighting a war on terror. Today, less than 30% of the US supports the war. You must be exposed to too much Russian propaganda. Believe me, most people don’t have any problems with Russia. My guess is that the whole anti=missle thing is to upset Putin so that he will stop building Iran’s nuclear reactor. After he backs off, we will probably pull the out. I don’t think anyone has lost sleep worrying though. Do you?
I am not exposed to Russian propaganda at all. I havent lived in Russia for 3 years.
I can see u exposed to US propaganda: U think that problem with Iran is about that damn nuclear reactor? Do U think that there will be no war if we stop building nuclear reactor? The only thing US is interested is oil and money. And Iran is not going to give it to u. War is going to happen before Bush leaves White House. Very shortly. It’s just required a trigger . With Iraq it was 9/11. Who knows what Bush will come up with.
this is true
Police is a difficult job. It means every day seeing and understanding criminal actions. This kind of exposure makes one feel these criminal actions are more ‘normal’ or even expected. This creates a temptation that some number will not resist. Add to this the difficult situation of political change, low pay, high prices, and the lives of these people becomes very challenging indeed.
The situation in several parts of the US were similar. Much of the Russian population is in Moscow, problems in that one city will be very visible. For comparison Chicago 1890-1930, corruption was so bad that not only the police but also the judges were involved in bribery, theft, and murder.
There are many ways to police the police, and judicial systems and Russia will find a way that works, but it will not be easy and while it will probably be faster in Moscow than it was in Chicago, it will not be fast.
“And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” Friedrich Nietzsche
In Soviet days, didn’t members of the Soviet Party receive special benefits? For example, didn’t they receive access to health/fitness/exercise clubs and get special treatment from the police. In fact, didn’t the police usually look the other direction if a communist party member did something wrong? Also, couldn’t anyone be a member of the communist party as long as they made a contribution?
yes, they cought and let go a serial killer who was a party member. he killed again. his name was “Chikatillo”
It wasn`t because he was a party member, almost everyone was a party member this time, they let him go because he was really intellegent monster - police had no proof.
Hannibal Lector is pretty much what Chikatillo was, but fictional, more charismatic, and not into killing children to eat them.
Chikatilo was bitch ass crazy mather fucker
And sure there was no propaganda in soviet times
I don’t know if they were more honest, but sure as hell they were better looking.
My first experience with Soviet cops was in 1977. I was approached by a money changer with a pretty good offer. I pointed out the cop standing 20 feet away and said “This is not a good idea.” The cop politely turned his back to us. I am sure he got a cut.
Back then, the cops just had better press agents. And the MVD cops were a whole better class than the uniformed KGB thugs
“In SU even if you found burglars in your house you cant kill them unless they are trying to kill you.”
In every civilized country it is a rule. But it is so easy to say that a burglar have tried to kill you, you can always pledge “self-defence”. Unless you are a freaking bastard to shoot a burglar on your fence. Let himj in before you catch him xD~
You know I’m just kidding, peeps. Try to imobilize the burglar and call the police.