Afghani War Carpets
There is a war in Afghanistan for more than 20 years already.
It has been started in late 70s when first Soviet troops entered Afghanistan to support the current regime.
Then after the collapse of USSR the war with external enemy has stopped for a while, but inside there were still conflicting groups fighting with each other for the power. Little by little Taliban got the dominating position in the country and just a few years later NATO troops entered the country.
So all the time there was a war, and most of the time all the parties used Soviet, then Russian weapons. It’s scary to see how the war thematics have moved to all spheres of life in Afghanistan even to carpet weaving skills. Previously this Middle-East country, lying on the border with Russia was famous for its hand-made carpets with beautiful Eastern ornaments. These days weavers make carpets with war.
And main war items depicted on the carpets are from Russian origin.
Here are the examples of Russian weapons that can be clearly distinguished on the contemporary Afghani carpets:
It’s probably the most known Russian gun - AK-47.
Russian scout tank BRDM-3.
Russian hand grenade F-1.
Russian hand-gun “Makarov”.
And Russian helicopter MI-8, thousands of them were based in Afghanistan for those 20 years.
You can see all of the mentioned above on those carpets. Helicopters even have their numbers. Is that called “realistic art”?
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it is not BRDM-3 (take a look here . Most probably it is one of BTRs
This vehicle is called BTR-80A (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BTR_Versions2.gif.
“It’s probably the most known Russian gun - AK-47.”
Correction, it is THE most well known and used gun in the WORLD. Period.
This of course may not include Americans, who barely know their heads from their ass - I’ve seen them refer to the language they speak as “American” instead of English. Morons.
You are a smart cookie, alternating caps man.
I’m not sure if English is your native language, or if you are just an American… but his post is pretty much entirely grammatically correct. I’m not an English major, but I can’t see anything wrong with his language offhand. You begin each sentence with a capital letter, as well as any proper nouns, such as American, English, or French would be capitalized.
For more information, see the Wikipedia article here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization
He was referring to the kiddie-style alternating capital letters that “DexTrOz” has in his “name”. You don’t notice much, do you?
Whatever country you’re from, I’m sure it’s not as bad as you think it is, so there’s no need to be bitter. You can like your own country without hating others, you know. That is, unless you’re absolutely hell-bent on being an idiot, which I can’t rule out in your case — or unless you’re one of those permanently adolescent left-wing Americans who think they can’t like other countries without hating their own.
I live in the US, and my girlfriend is an American. I personally, am a Canadian. I don’t have a lot of respect for this country left, due to my being saturated in it for years. No, I didn’t notice that his name had alternating caps. It was the one thing I didn’t look at.
Bravo!! Well said.
Yeah, of course. After all, commies were selling (hell, giving away) those to every cannibal (that shouldn’t be given even steel knives, lest he goes out slaughtering his neighbours - see Bokassa) out there. Not a great achievement.
But, sure, AK-47 and AKM-74 were cheap and reliable, perfect for the kind of peasants that use them. Other than that… very mediocre rifle, I wouldn’t even take mine (alas, semi-auto only) hunting varmints. I’ll stick with Remington 700’s (chambered for .22 and 30-30) for both deer and varmints.
Actually, the beauty of the AK-47 was that it got stuck all the time in dirt and water, but it was made of durable parts and could be serviced in a jiffy by anyone to get it work again.
That’s what I said, those peasants couldn’t be trusted with properly caring for a rifle, so it was made cheap and durable. If they had to sacrifice accuracy… so be it.
Its true…. Americans are just stupid ignorant poopy heads. All that advanced technology just falls from the sky onto the undeserving Americans. American economic productivity just grows on trees and is not a result of hard work by a skilled, educated populace. Americans are just morons who did nothing at all to create their high standard of living, abundant food, first class medicine, large comfortable houses, powerful world spanning military, and culture that everyone else emulates and imports.
BigDog - bingo. Wish I have said that myself.
Where’s Finish Alco’s when you need him!?
Most of what the United States today enjoys is because of the immigrants that choose to come and live there. Let me explain some history to you. 200 years ago, the world was a tough place and was still evolving. America was sparsely populated, much behind Western Europe in industrialization and in need of manpower, since slavery was not getting them the skilled technicians. The one thing America had, was a free government unlike a monarch rule in most of the other worlds. They capitalized on this and brought in the smartest people from the world giving them a free hand to do all the research they wanted. There were many smart Americans as well. They had to be ingenious to survive the’wild’ West. But don’t let your ego soak your redneck head. The reason why your economy grows is because of this constant infulx of intelligent ‘foreigners’. But flash forward two hundred years later… and the world is a much nicer place to live in. A significant portion of potential immigrants are no longer choosing to come to the US for opportunities. If you just open your eyes and read about the progress in China and India which together constitute ~half the world population you’ll see who is living off who’s talent.
You’re a hoot and a hollar, dextroz.
The Indian and Chinese software developers I’ve worked with in the US would be amazed to hear you claim that they stayed home. Business conditions are not ideal in either of those countries, for varying reasons. The Indian software industry is squeezed two ways: The conventional wisdom about outsourcing among US software people has been turning negative the last few years. Sometimes you get good results, but too many people have spent too much money on code they had to rewrite anyhow. On the other side, they’re getting squeezed on cost by China and others. There are still a lot of programmers working in Bangalore and they’ll still have jobs in ten years, but it’s not the juggernaut people thought it was a few years back. If proper product companies start springing up in Bangalore, that’ll be very interesting to see. I’m hoping it happens, myself. Microsoft’s faltering by all (internal) accounts, and somebody’s going to come along and eat their lunch within a few years.
No, the reason the US has always done so well, and still does, is that we take risks and our laws don’t try to stop us. It’s easy to start companies here. It’s easy find smart people here who’ll take a high-risk job in a startup. The law won’t stop them from working 60 or 70 hour weeks. All the silly regulations that slow Europe down are all about putting a damper on competition; of course we out-compete them. It’s not that we’re born smarter than you are (I, personally, was born considerably smarter than you, personally, but that’s anecdotal). It’s just that we’ve got our priorities straight: Lots of us aren’t just scurrying for safety and security like Europeans. We’re out to win.
The cultures in India and China encourage, if anything, an even greater belief in hard work than ours. That’s why so many of them do so well here. But between idiotic laws and ubiquitous government corruption, people there have to come to the US to really succeed. It’s a damn shame. If India and China had a better business environment, everybody, including the US, would benefit. That is the thing that people like you just don’t grasp: It’s not a zero-sum game. It really isn’t. More goods and services for everybody means more goods and services for everybody. Rich people make more stuff and they turn around and buy more stuff. Prices drop, markets expand, and everybody wins. American success has made the whole world wealthier. Indian and Chinese success have already done the same, and greater success would do more of it. Get your empty little head out of the dark ages, kid.
As far as the argument for people leaving for the US: http://www.plex86.org/computer_2/Brain-gain–Fewer-IITians-going-abroad.html (I couldn’t find anything on news sites, but there is a very accurate report published in December 06 which stated that approx 6 students, out of a graduating class of 4500 at the IITs, opted to go to the US in 07. Normally it would have been 4000 leaving for the US.)
“Prices drop, markets expand, and everybody wins”
I think America is realizing this is NOT so. Never has this been more evident than today. The current economy in major sectors is reaching a state of capitalistic monopolies. Prices are at record highs while innovation is at the lowest. Since the end of the cold war, any drive to succeed (lateral innovation) has dramatically dwindled. There have been no groundbreaking developments through focussed acheivements as was the case in the earlier half of the twentieth century with the incredible construction, electrical engineering, computation, basic math and sciences not to mention infrastructure.
I do agree with your point about the US being the easiest place to start and run a business, but China and India are fast catching up with the pro-entrepreneurship model. This is an advantage of policies which is quite easily replicated.
Ed: Don’t forget Property Rights. Not having your land, home, and any other capital and property siezed or threatened by the government or whacky revolutionaries is important to long term social and economic stability.
You’ve never been outside Russia. It’s likely that you’ve never been outside of your own village. Please find me some Americans that refer to the English language as American.
http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/hewlett+packard/9-more-hewlettpackard-company-secrets-from-a-former-employee-236909.php
Read number 4… and bask in the glory of the wisdom your countrymen. hah..hah..
You know something? The strength of the United States is it’s constitution. It is the essence that separates America from the rest of the world. It was written clearly, precisely and with immense afterthoughts to cover for the contingencies required for 2 generations of morons the forefathers knew would fuck with it. Unfortunately, the most advanced nation in the world is falling back into the debate of evolution.
Don’t pretend that you don’t understand that an American who speaks of American language or American English is simply refering to the difference in terminology used in certain contexts by people who were educated in different parts of the world. If you really do not understand that, maybe it would be better to simply not ridicule something that you do not understand. Eh?
(SHIIIIT. The comments are giving me seeeeeeizure, mwaaah…)
Thse carpets are interesting. I am going ot ask my friend if he can buy any next time he is in Afghanistan.
Great! More stuff like this please…
Just for your information - M16 and AK-47 comparison on wikipedia
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I have to correct a bit of Afghanistan history here. First of all, the war started before the U.S.S.R. invaded. They invaded precisely because the communist government was losing a civil war to an insurgency. And in fact they were invited by the (undemocratic, rather unpopular in the countryside) government. This is overlooked by the American propaganda machine but it’s true.
This post also overlooks the serious investment that the C.I.A. made in Afghanistan, mainly supporting Hekmatyar who would later go on to support the Taliban. Thanks to the United States, ground-to-air anti-aircraft missiles proved to be a key component of demoralizing Soviet troops and eventually driving them out. Some carpets with the anti-aircraft missiles also exist.
Regarding the America-vs-the-world debate… I refer you to the wisdom of Solomon: the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong… but time and chance happen to them all.
That’s all because of Americans. They have attacked peaceful nation of Afghanians and killed all people in Afghanistan.
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These types of carpets were readily available - rather inexpensively - in the early and middle 1990s in the United States.
Any carpet store with a big inventory had at least a handful of them. I was very interested in them at the time, but didn’t have my own home to keep them in, so I passed them up.
I kick myself now. Carpets with helicopters and AK-47s were fascinating and cool. I would guess that they are worth far more now than they were back in 1995, etc.
Oh well!
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Here are some more challenging ordinance to identify. This rug’s design origin comes from a land mine awareness poster.
This one shows F-16s but was woven before the US/British/Coalition operations in Afghanistan.
And the warrug guy claims these rugs are based on ZPU-4 and carriage
Opps:
Land Mine Rug
F-16 Rug
The Ak 47 is one of the most reliable guns made. It’s primary use is to kill humans. For that it works very well. So when we grow up someday. We hopefully put those things were they belong. On a scrapheap.
But as for killing humans:) This is the thing.
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i hate to be so blunt but your military knwoledge makes you look as though you were struck in the face by a child with a large bat…
the 8X8 in the picture is NOT a BRDM scout vehicle
it IS however a BTR-80A armored personel carrier
here is a word that might come to mind next artical you post… RESEARCH!
yes, it is BTR-80A.
Afghanistan a “Middle-east country”…NO!!!!
Learn some geography…
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OMG I just found this…I own one of these afghan war rugs although mine is a bit more subtle. Mine is large and has tanks around the perimeter.
I know a ton of guys who went to Afghanistan and got these rugs. Strangely, I have seen that exact rug design before. I wonder if the Afghans mass produce them or if they outsource.