Popov – Champion, Marconi – Impostor
Over a hundred years there is an argument in the world concerning real radio inventor. But one needs to do a little research to make it clear that Marconi had simply read Popov’s papers.
The first known evidence for Marconi to be the radio inventor appeared on June 2, 1896 with his patent application to the UK Patent Office for a discovery, 13 months after Popov had delivered his lecture on radio themes before the Russian Physical and Chemical Society members in St. Petersburg on May 7, 1895. That secret patent application #12039, inspired as they say by the UK Patent Office’s Principal examiner William Preece, the Chief Electrical Engineer of the British Post Office, however contained no diagrams and charts performed by Marconi himself but his lyrical sketches only.
Due to the fact Marconi was a half-educated person in physics he was greatly helped by the attached telegraphy specialist, electrical engineer George S. Kemp. The results of their double-work called sometimes “curious” cannot be sorted out even by the present specialists without having A.S.Popov’s layouts and diagrams as explanations before their eyes.
Furthermore while demonstrating his wireless communication system with remote parabolic antennas to the British Post Office’s managing staff and ordinary employees on July 27, 1896 Marconi failed to transmit/receive Morse code dots and dashes though electrical impulses transmission was documented. Later on Marconi performed a series of larger scale demonstrations resulted nevertheless in rather questionable outcomes.
His second patent #12325 Marconi got on May 27, 1899. It was partially similar to the first one #12039 as regards to the elements design and it described several innovative decisions applied for his wireless transmission system which were questionable again.
For justice’ sake Marconi acknowledged certain theoretical and practical groundlessness of his work while among his colleagues. During Nobel Prize Award ceremony he said, “There are solid grounds for frequent criticizing me for that assertion concerning signals transmission through the earth and water stated in my first British patent dated June 2, 1896, I suppose.”
In “Wireless telegraphy” by A.Rigi and B.Dessau they wrote, “Marconi submitted his first patent application on June 2, 1896 while Popov had described his apparatus in 1895. Therefore Marconi cannot lay claims to priority wrt essential elements of his devices; he’s been late with his invention.”
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FIRST !!!
This is absolutely true.
Acctually, many people were involved in the invention of radio transmission (more in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_radio ). The first groundbreaker was acctually Nikola Tesla.
Popov was surely first. Just like Mendeleev with Periodic system of elements. Even former russian Sikorsky guy was after Cheremukhin in creating helicopters. West people a good in take patents and make money on it. Russians are weak in this aspect, just imaginationists and besserebrenniks (sorry, no equal word in english).
The only thing Popov invented was cheap American vodka with Russian sounding name!
Shut up, ukrainian whore!
You shut up you… you durak!
I like the old broad even if she does sound Gay!
唧唧歪歪什么
What the Hell does six black squares mean?
Translation: fuk yui
LMAO!
As we saying in Russia Marconi is a fag!
So what you are too! Who the fock cares!!!
yea 100% true
Having been to the Popov museum in Kronshchdat I can safely say that he was indeed first.
It was a wonderful lesson about how ‘first’ is often determined not by who first invents, but who first gets to the patent office .
tesla has a patent for radio dated 1893, it is widely known that tesla, not popov nor marconi invented the first wireless.
Tesla was a genius!
Jim is right!!!
Nikola Tesla is the one who invented radio, but Marconi took the credit and in 1909 won Nobel Prize for it! It is rumored that Tesla refused to be nominated for Nobel in 1912 in protest. however, with Tesla being Serbian and Popov Russian, I don’t think Tesla would mind too much if the Prize went to the Russian instead of Marconi
Not only is that true, but in 1897-98 Tesla created a radio controlled boat that he sailed in Madison Square Garden in NY. He could control the propeller, the rudder and the lights. He said he had been working on it since 1892.
The telegraph stations that Marconi built were based on spark gap generators meaning they transmitted on all frequencies in the radio spetrum at the same time. With his radio controlled boat Telsa demonstrated the abililty to transmit and receive separate frequencies. (Think of all 300 channels on your TV playing “Sponge Bob Squarepants” Vs. 300 different programs)
This is a fantastic leap in technology over Marconi.
Popov is not well know in American simply because he wasn’t setting up radio towers here, Marconi was. Tesla got the shit end of the stick however.
BTW Marconi was Italian, not American
http://2008.telfor.rs/files/specsec/H_1.pdf
Tesla fought in court against both because they robbed him. He was pissed. And right.
hi There !
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This surname occurs from a nickname “Balgarin” It the Bulgarian on a nationality means.
There are lots of stuff invented by Russians (and other slav countries like Bulgaria, Serbia, etc), unfortunately the country’s condition and laws didn’t allow them to reach their maximum potential, and most of them left the country to continue their research. Those who were left had to watch others claim their inventions as their own.
How did the slavs get to be always controlled by others (communists, socialists, bandits, you name it), while Westerners fought for themselves and are still in the lead (I’m talking about UK, US, Germany who lost 2 wars yet are still in the G8, etc.)?
That is an interesting question J, I hope to see some responses too the question from some of our “slav” friends. They are free now though, and I for one am hoping for peace and prosperity for them all.
Aw, you silly git! How comes you do not know the world is controlled by Jud Süss? I thought we had already released the extra-value DVD attached to every can of the own-brand lager sold in Asda to target the chav audience…
Okay well… HELP… I need a translator on number eleven please!
What the Hell is that dilirious durak trying to say?
That’s how it always goes with invention priorities! Read about the Nobel Prize in physics at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RELIKT-1
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/РЕЛИКТ-1
its a shame what you lose when you are commie nation for 70 yrs .
For sure it was Tesla, probably greatest genius in history, and undeservedly uncredited. He refused the Nobel prize because he was offered to receive it and split it with Edison, the guy that had set him up numerous times, a real fake. Tesla made inventions that could benefit all humanity, and Edison and others that had much lesser knowledge and talent were only in it for money and praise. I guess the genius and inventions of Tesla will be appreciated only by generations that will come in future, since he was centuries in front of his time.
Tesla vs. Edison.
During the race to electrify the world, George Westinghouse and Nikola Tesla advocated the use of Alternating Current whereas Thomas Edison advocated Direct Current. The benefits of AC is that it is cheaper to produce, easier to transmit over long distances and has the ability to be “stepped up” (or down) with transformers.
I have often been told that DC in high voltages is deadlier than AC if you get shocked. I know from personal experience having been shocked by a 90volt DC MacCulloch circuit that DC is no fun. I got blown off a ladder and landed about 10ft away. Gettting shocked by 110volt AC is just annoying. (yes I realize amperage also comes into play here).
In any case, to sway public opinion that AC was bad news, Thomas Edison invented the electric chair which put people to death by exposing them to high AC volatages. The idea being to accociate alternating current with death in the public view. It seems to me that the slight distinction of AC vs DC was pretty much not grasped by the general public and Thomas Edison eventually lost the “battle of the currents”.
But we still have the electric chair.
Whilst on the subject of Tesla, He also discovered how to send Electricity wirelessly. This way being able to offer anybody in the world access to the new technology. (He knew that the earth was a giant conductor, he also found out how to split the earth in half using vibrations, but that is a different story) However when he approached General Electric they agreed to purchase 51% of his invention for around $55,000. Then once the contract was signed refused to release the invention to the public. GE had spent so much in wiring up New York that they refused to throw it all away on new wireless equipment.
He died pennyless and undiscovered for two days in NY. The CIA were the first to enter his room and it was later discovered his diaries were missing/removed.
A true eccentric and proberly unlikable electrical Genius.
He died before the CIA was created. The government did take most all his files.
my bad, knew the government got in there first though.
China invented sheety take out food.
Do not be fooled by these lies, it was I who invented the radio.
Yes, yes. It was just before you invented the internet Al.
This is one of my favorite sites on the internet, but I think the author needs to update the original post with at least a nod toward Tesla. Even Popov himself said:
“[...] the emission and reception of signals by Marconi by means of electric oscillations [was] nothing new. In America, the famous engineer Nikola Tesla carried the same experiments in 1893.”
As you said, Popov’s lecture was in 1895.
Anyway, I think we can all agree Marconi was a thief on top of being a rotten fascist.
Everybody knows marconi made the first radio… but since this is a russian oriented weblog, I can’t prove you guys are wrong.
There is no link in the original post to any remarkable website or even the wikipedia, so let’s say you just made all this crap.
Marconi was the Radio inventor. If you dont believe me, then go to Wikipedia. Is the Wikipedia against your patriotic crap.
The admirers of G.Marconi do not read his own written scripts. In his biographies and in his Nobel lecture Marconi reported, that he started the experiences on wireless communication in the garret of father’s country-house in Italy in June 1895.
At the beginning of the Nobel lecture Marconi adduces his first scheme, which couldn’t work. In his 1st and 2nd patents ( published in the Internet), Marconi wrote a lot of physical absurdities.
In 1901 Marconi failed to transmit the letter “S” through Atlantic Ocean. But he deceived everybody and he said, that this transmission took place. Marconi told most of all physical absurdities at the Nobel lecture, where he said, that Hertz was wrong, when he had discovered, that radio-waves could transmit through the ether and air. In Marconi’s opinion, radio-waves must transmit on the surface of earth and water, that is a monstrous mistake.
Hm, found your post on yahoo, glad I did too. Great blog