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    71 Responses to “Russian SUV”

    1. xanas says:

      FIRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSST!

    2. totaly crap looking like Ford Kuga, Renault Koleos, Nissan Qashqai and many more shit.

    3. JeryBarada says:

      Looks like a Saturn POS… whatsamatta? couldn’t find any foam to soften the damn seats? I’ve sat on park benches that look softer than those.

    4. maxD says:

      Typical Russian. No one even considers building / designing something for the average consumer. So, no affordable and reliable car for 5000 dollars or less, but instead focus on petrol guzzling ‘prestigious’ shit.

      In the same line of thought: no one considers building tourist-class hotels. Instead, overpriced Las Vegas-style 5 star plus hotels are constructed. No one was waiting for those, it will not improved tourism, but who cares.

      In Russia for some time there was a piece of software available for the iPhone. The iPhone has not been officially introduced in Russia until recently, so owning one is already ‘prestigious’. To top it of, you could buy this little application, the most expensive one available fir the iPhone in fact, for 750 dollars. What it did ? It displays a rotating shiny red ruby /diamond on the screen. That’s it. But the idea was: look at me - I can afford to pay so much [more than a monthly income for many Russian families] for something absolutely useless. Don’t you wish you were me ? Don’t you envy me ?
      Needless to say, it sold like crazy until Apple removed the download links due to complaints from other customers.
      Sad as it is, every Russian seems obsessed with the idea of ‘getting on top of everybody else, ASAP’. And will do anything for that.

      To conclude one can say that Russia turned into a caricature of the US on it’s worst.

      • Well, go back to the old days and look at the cars. Rediculous and to this they still manage to manufacture those monstrous fuel eating tin cans called ladas. Sure cheap, but the gas consumtion makes up for the price of a good Japanese car. Russian automakers are trying to appeal to the international market, which would scream and run for the hills if it saw another preice of shit that rissia manages to manufacture. I agree that russians tend to be better-than-your-neighbor, but cars aren’t the place to complain about it. Russia, if it is going to make cars, has to stop making gas consuming, smelly, and fragile shit cars.

      • Well, go back to the old days and look at the cars. Rediculous and to this they still manage to manufacture those monstrous fuel eating tin cans called ladas. Sure cheap, but the gas consumtion makes up for the price of a good Japanese car. Russian automakers are trying to appeal to the international market, which would scream and run for the hills if it saw another preice of shit that rissia manages to manufacture. I agree that russians tend to be better-than-your-neighbor, but cars aren’t the place to complain about it. Russia, if it is going to make cars, has to stop making gas consuming, smelly, and fragile shit cars.

      • Ilya says:

        hows this typical russian?
        all of russian cars are shit and cost about 4 grand. they also break down about every 5 thousand miles and noone except immigrants from more poor countries buys them

    5. Mike says:

      That thing has a cool interior, I especially like the seats.

      Too bad it’s an SUV though - anyone who drives an SUV is an asshole.

      /Mike

      • Shycookie says:

        so.. accoring to you, half of people living in North America are assholes ?????

        • bezdomny says:

          well, almost half of the US population was willing to vote for McCain and Palin… so yes, I agree with you! About half the people living in North America (well, the US anyway) ARE assholes!

        • Probably. Typical Russian: to them, there are only two kinds of Americans: a rich asshole with an SUV and a poor asshole who can’t afford one. What they forget is the fact that it’s the American oil consumption that keeps Russia - which has no industry to speak of - out of the Upper Volta-type poverty.

          …there are numerous hybrids that get 50+ miles per gallon already on the road, and practical electric cars go on sale in the U.S. by 2010. Something to think about.

          • Mike says:

            But I’m not Russian…

            /Mike

          • The typical Russian would be pretty much correct about those two types of Americans. It’s the “haves” and the “have nots”. I am a “have some” and I drive a new Subaru.

            But you are wrong about Russian oil being used in American SUV’s. America does not import oil from Russia. We import from Canada, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Mexico, Iraq, Nigeria, Angola, Algeria, Ecuador, Brazil, Colombia, Gabon, Kuwait, Chad and the UK (in that order). No Russia.

            • So you define yourself by your car? How very… Russian. I need two things from a vehicle: one, it needs to start every time I crank the motor, and two, it needs to take me and my stuff where I want to go and bring me back - preferably, in reasonable comfort. Unlike in Russia, where there is an unwritten law that “a car should cost about as much as you make in a month” (WTF, am I supposed to be driving a Ferrari?), the price factor just doesn’t figure in - although, the cheaper, the better. For the last few years, my 10 years old truck was serving me fine; the reason I upgraded to a Wrangler is because too many small annoying things started going wrong, and at this time, I need 4WD more than cargo capacity. Open top is nice, too: cars and women are better topless.

              The reason for such a pragmatic approach is that, in the immortal words of Ostap Suleiman Berta Maria Bender-bei, automobile is not a luxury, but a means of transportation. This attitude has been brought about by over 100 years of mass automotive and personal transportation culture, something Russia does not have.

              And, yes, there are “haves” and “have nots” in America, too, but there is a much greater opportunity for social mobility by honest labor - something virtually nonexistent in Russia.

              For an advanced assignment, look up definition of “fungible”. Is oil a fungible commodity? What a producer of fungible commodity is expected to experience, if the largest consumer of such commodity reduces its consumption - even if said producer and consumer do not trade directly? Out of several producers of such commodity that have different marginal costs of production, which one is going to suffer the most from phenomena above?

              • “as much as you make in a YEAR”, above. Sorry, was thinking of the ex-leper scene from Life of Brian…

              • I was just making a point about my car (I am middle-middle class), but yes, most Americans define themselves and judge their neighbors by the car they drive. It’s not just Russians who do this. The US is a car-centric culture. Why do you think we consume 25% of Earth’s energy? Our entire landscape and culture is predicated on two things: cheap oil and good roads. Unlike Russia, we have no mass transit. We have a train system the Bulgarians would laugh at. We drive everywhere, for everything.

                I have seen (fat) people load up into a giant SUV and drive 100 meters to a store. Every day, I see parents drive their children .5km to school. It’s insane. Always driving, all the time. Since we are always driving (and never walking) the car becomes our clothes and our “make-up”. It is how we define ourselves to the outside world. Asking a American to drive an older, beat-up car is like asking a European to walk around in older, beat-up clothes. Europeans mostly dress impeccably and Americans are SLOBS. But our cars? Brand new and expensive.

                I realize this is stupid, and I am something of a student of American cultural criticism. The American Dream and the American Way of Life are NOT sustainable. We can’t all be rich entrepreneurs. You Russians should stop looking to the US as some kind of model. The American Dream and the American Way of Life is predicated on cheap oil. And very soon, there will be no more cheap oil.

                You don’t want to be here when that happens.

                • >>>Why do you think we consume 25% of Earth’s energy?

                  Er, because we produce 25% of the stuff on this planet? A more appropriate question is, why Russia and China consume 4 times as much energy to produce equal amount of crap - and that without correcting for oh-so-wonderful cattle carriers public transport.

                  >>>Unlike Russia, we have no mass transit

                  You say it as if it is a bad thing. I spent a summer in Boston, riding Orange Line to work every day. Typical scene: smelly hobo to my right, fag with AIDS to my left, sweaty managers all over the place, minority youth lying on the bench across and fucked-in-the-head christianoid preaching in the aisle. Fuck that. Then again, it’s actually decent compared to Russian public transport.

                  >>>You Russians should stop looking to the US as some kind of model.

                  Who are you calling a Russian? I am a Texas redneck of Russian extraction.

                  >>>And very soon, there will be no more cheap oil.

                  Oh, cut that peak oil crap. Seriously, you think we gave up on horses for transport because of “peak horse” and whale oil for illumination because of “peak whale”? I’m pretty sure T. Boone Pickens has some prime Texas land for wind power production for you. Incidentally, oil from coal via Fischer-Tropsch competes with $50 oil, biomass-to-liquid with about $90 or so, and shale oil could be recovered for a lot less. Even assuming no major breakthroughs in thermonuclear and battery technology, there is plenty of fossil fuels to go around for the next century or so - assuming that the incoming White House character would find the wisdom the get the hell out of the way of people who actually get things done - those “rich entrepreneurs” you love to hate. Not that I count on it…

                  >>>You don’t want to be here when that happens.

                  Oh yes, I do! I got a few ideas tested right here. Not competitive at the current prices, but if oil stays at $100 for a decade, I am poised to make a fucking bundle. Unless, of course, people like J. Craig Venter would beat me at it - but then again, such is capitalism, m’friend, get used to it.

            • name says:

              But the US consumes a lot of petrol, which makes the oi l prices go higher, which makes the (some) russians with their hands on the oil richer … and b.t.w. Oil is superprecious for future of mankind. You can produce many things from it. The stupidest way to waste the little rest we have is to burn it.

    6. qwerty says:

      Interior is total crap. Why so much of that grey / white shiny plastic? Even the ceiling is white! :D … And seats ..omg.. Maybe the designer could put there a seats made of wood - it would be the same.

    7. KBR says:

      It is a promising concept car, I am looking forward to see how it will develop.

      • Russia discovers failed “crossover SUV” concept…

        • KBR says:

          Why is it failed?

          • Because they have no off-road capabilities, like real Jeep, no extra room compared to station wagons, no penis extension factor, like Hummer, no bimbo appeal, like RAV and are more expensive to operate as a daily transport than comparable AWD station wagons (like Subaru, who, incidentally, pioneered the concept with Outback/Forester line). So… what is the niche?

            • KBR says:

              Russia needs to start somewhere. Although Russian cars has to overcome some distances to be reasonably good cars, Japanese cars were bad, some as Koreans, but now they have good cars. So perhaps Russia will have good cars somewhere in the future. But it will be a wait and see scenario.

              • They got their start back in the 1930s, when they cloned Ford A. Ever since, the only tin can produced in Russia that was original and somewhat resembling a vehicle was Lada Niva - not an incompetent offroader, although it was seriously let down by Russian quality/work ethics, as well as fuel consumption on par with Jeep Wrangler, which has a much larger engine. The only hope for decent cars to be produced in Russia is to dismantle the sorry excuse they have for auto industry and start from scratch. If it is at all possible, that is, given Russian work ethics: for dog’s sake, BMW disowned their own assembly plant in Kaliningrad (Koenigsberg) for poor quality.

    8. Poocolator says:

      Ummm…. in response to the people above criticizing the inefficiency (etc) of the SUV: they’re just doing the same shit americans have been since the advent of the automobile. ie, gas-guzzling, oversized, power-vehicles.

      • …except that my fucking Jeep (Jeep! 4×4 truck! With 2.5 liter engine!) gets about 20 miles per gallon - on- and off-road combined. That’s less than 12 liters per 100 km - about the same as wussy little Lada Niva with a pissant 1.6 liter… thing that passes for engine.

    9. k says:

      Is it bulletproof? :D

    10. Chrysler Pacifica clone?

    11. nina Germany says:

      hahaha, prototypes shouldn’t look so low-budget :D

      also it’s clear that they ripped off the front from nissan murano and roofline from mercedes r…

      why wont you design something on your own, even Korean cars no longer look like cheap rip-offs

    12. J Doe says:

      Too bad that it doesn’t come with a stereo. Otherwise it could be a real car.

      • Fat Bastard says:

        Forget the stereo, why doesn’t it come with real seats? And the interior looks worse than the worst “masterpiece” of Korean interior design (all gray, cheap-looking and repulsive)

    13. Ngern says:

      wow, it looks so good- might be the first one to complete with the west

      • maxD says:

        Russian car industry can not compete with the Asian producers, unless they stop paying their workers at all. Asia rules. Even Germany has a hard time. Russia should focus on tourism. The country is vast and has many many interesting sites and views to offer. Hiking, luxury trips, cruises… many people would enjoy visiting Russia.

        unfortunately, no money is invested here at all by Russian businesses, because it is a long term investment which is not popular in Russia. Fast money is everything. Building prestigious 5 star hotels is not really contributing to tourism, but to business travelers. Apart from that, the inbred Russian distrust of everything not Russian also makes it very hard for foreign companies to invest in this area.

        Russia still believes it can exist as an island in a global economy. At the expense of the common citizen, who does not see his/her life improve.

    14. CZenda says:

      What is the leather thing on picture 21?
      A forehead rest for a vodka-drinking driver?
      The car is simply ugly, it looks like they have hired a teenage chav and gave him a credit card for purchasing cheap Chinese accessories at the nearest Halfraud or Lidl.

      • Russian auto industry: Chinese quality, Italian reliability, German bureaucracy, American fuel economy, French comfort, Indian engineering, African tastefulness. Russian work ethics, too - now, THAT has no rivals.

        • commonman092 says:

          The front looks disgusting but the rest of the car looks like any Asian car you could see on the roads today. And with the seats, the RAV4 seats aren’t much more comfortable.

          And cynical bastard, Italian cars are built to last but they aren’t going to run in 50 years like they did when they were new.

          I have a 51 year old Fiat 500 which I drive to various places around Calabria, and I see other similar cars to the one I drive, and you rarely see a Fiat 500 on the side of the road due to overheating.

          I would have put British reliablity, electrics on British cars screw up after 10 years on average, I’m owned 4 British made cars of roughly 10 years of age and that can be said.

          • I guess that depends on your philosophy. If you treat your car as a toy/hobby and willing to spend time taking care of them, then Italian cars are fine, even Fiats (Russian clones of Fiat, however…). On the other hand, if I wanted transportation, I’d pass: with my old GMC, I opened the hood once in, like, 7 years. Only saw the inside of the shop for maintenance (oil changes every three months and tuneups every other year), new tires and a bent tie rod (me stoopit). But, I agree on British cars, they don’t call Lucas “prince of Darkness” for nothing.

          • CZenda says:

            Fiat 500 is an icon! Keep it running ;-)

            It is very common that those who never owned a Fiat know best about their unreliability etc. On the other hand, it happens frequently that those who actually have one fall in love with them. I am the latter case.

            Fiats are still considered prone to rusting too fast by many (although this is not true anymore). The cars made during 70s - 80s were, indeed, turning to rustboxes quickly. The reason was a poor quality of steel sheets used for their manufacture. It was a steel made in USSR and sent to Italy instead of hard currency as a payment for the manufacturing facilities built by Fiat in Togliatti. The sheets were already rusty upon their arrival to Italy and no surface reconditioning could fix the issue - the flakes of rust were rolled-in into the material at the time of their manufacture.

            • commonman092 says:

              I shall, it’s a brilliant car and even thought I liked the 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air cabriolet that my father brought in Australia instead of the FIat 500, I wish that he brought that. But having that Chevrolet made me a die-hard Chevy fan as well as a Fiat fan.

    15. lenin says:

      looks like vacuum cleaner

    16. steffen says:

      Looks very cheap. Like chinese cars. Manufacturing quality of american cars is not much better, though. Russian design seems to lost its only pro: reliabillity. If you want to buy a real good car, go for a german, british or japanese car.

    17. Jason says:

      This is a sporty car.It would be better with more coushin on the seats and some controls on the dash.I wonder who built it,Volga or Lada.In a country where most products have english writing on them and calvin klein is king Russia does have 2 auto makers.In Ekaterinburg I saw 30 year old Volgas and Ladas.Somehow they still run.Everything thing els was a mix of american and russian.Mazda 3 and 6 is popular there.The 06 Mustang with the aftermarket tail lights and the rich person with the black H2 Hummer.And the japenese car with the steering wheel on the right side I rode in.

    18. Jason says:

      oops,I almost forgot the german cars over there.BMW Mercedes Volvo….

    19. Nikitn says:

      Your such a fucking idiot MAxD. have you even talked to Russians for 50 years, before fucking off to US? Retard.

      And you idiot, minimum pay in Russia is 400 EURO per month. Learns ome shit before speaking, little faggot.

      PS: RUSSIAN women are hot. In their 40’s as well. No they don’t decay like you think, you retard.

    20. Nikitn says:

      Hi stupid morone, Oil & gas consitute like 20% of the Russian economy. Learn what you talk, before you talk you stupid american.

      • maxD says:

        Why the abusive language ? You have no arguments to make your point ? This way you classify yourself only as a loud and insecure shouter.
        Which is not your intention, I guess.

    21. Joe Schmoe says:

      Who puts bucket seats in the back of any car\suv\truck???

      Selling point is suv or crossover can carry at least five people, this limits you to four.

    22. Avenger says:

      I`m sure, it will never run… =)

    23. beseeq says:

      еще одна говнотачка от лады :( зачем правительство поддерживает русский автопром, дайте ему уже умереть, а то одни конвульсии

    24. JoeJoeJoe says:

      From what I can see, that looks like a deathtrap. I don’t know if it’s a non-functioning model, but the SUV seems to have no safety features at all.

    25. jaba says:

      The seats remind me of frying pan for some reason. No, wait, whole car is frying pan, except the russians have dumped clumsy metal and replaced it with cheap plastic…

    26. jaba says:

      Btw, this is definately a SUV. Just look at its front end…

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