Dark Side of Moscow
At present we got used to think of Moscow as about clean and bright city. But what one will see below is the rather uncommon contrary.
Such courtyard may look unusual even for those who live in Moscow and know this city well.
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Hardly the “dark side”. just an area in disrepair, I’ve seen areas like this before in Moscow.. most of are closer to the outskirts though.
uhh, what’s so unusual here?
Like their aren’t ghettos like this in the Bronx, Christ. Your anti-Russian sentiment is distasteful even to the foreigners you’re trying to appeal to.
There are no ghettos in Moscow per se. The entire city looks like one huge ghetto. Some pretty houses here and there, but overall it looks like one huge public housing project. If I don’t like the Bronx, I don’t have to live there. I can live in Brooklyn or move to New Jersey. In Moscow, it doesn’t matter where you live. You will see the same mayhem everywhere.
well..that counts for Dnepropetrovsk (ukraine) too….i think its in the most former sovjet cities….its pretty sad tough..but no problem people are used to it.
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/new.php check out for pics of Dnepropetrovsk
“it looks like one huge public housing project”
That’s because it is…or was, at some point.
Yeah, sad… (New Ford Focus Wagon, new Ford Fusion, Volvo V70 or Lancia Kappa or something like that…) Sad, truly sad…
That’s because this place is not private property. It’s a public space that nobody gives a shit about. That’s a problem stemming from the USSR.
Most things are not private property, that’s why you see brand new cars and very comfortable and fixed up apartments, but step out the door of that apartment and there is dog poop and urine in the hallways and the elevator.
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And it’s not that there are areas in Moscow like Spanish Harlem or East New York. I mean there are no “bad” and “good” areas in Moscow (not counting the Garden Ring area of course, which is a whole different story). So this is indeed not very unusual for any part of the city. How could anybody say that Moscow is clean and bright and beautiful is beoynd me. Apart from the pampered Garden Ring, it’s an ugly, cold city with an appalling architecture.
Just don’t tell me this is the worst Moscow can offer!
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it’s the same all over, slums in Moscow, slums in New York, slums in Calcutta, slums in Sao Paulo.
I don’t think this is necessarily “anti-Russian” bias to post these photos. Russia is what it is, warts and all. To assume some anti-Russian bias by posting these photos is like assuming it’s anti-American to mention slums in the Bronx, or Roxbury, or Newark, or Watts, or _____ (fill in the blank). These slums do exist; nobody’s shit smells like roses.
hmm, why would one think of these pics as anti-Russian? just out of curiosity… those’re real pictures right? so what’s so anti-Russian about ‘em showing moscow reality? i think it’s kinda stupid to think it’s anti-russian
i was replying to Publius’ comments above– he/she claimed there was “anti-Russian” bias on this site.
i guess i was asking for your opinion too…:-)
yeah you did ask for his opinion, shitface.
here’s a quote from your post above
“why would one think of these pics as anti-Russian? just out of curiosity… those’re real pictures right? so what’s so anti-Russian about ‘em showing moscow reality?”
this is fucking retarded
where’re morons like you coming from ?
publius told that the author not the pics are anti russian…but i think his wrong in that too….because the author is talking like its very unusual to see such pics for moscow. so i think his talking positive…only everybody knows that one can find countless of such places in Moscow (even worse).
All because of fucking old farts communists technology
It is actually a famous construcovist complex which is being currently left to rot.
from http://www.maps.ru
The ‘Hostels of the Red Professor Institute’ (1929-1932) by D.P.Osipov and A.M.Rukhlyadev, a complex of experimental Constructivist housing, is under threat of demolition. These seven elegant buildings were constructed to house trainee military teachers and hold a key position opposite the Novodevichy Monastery in southern Moscow. Osipov is a well-known Moscow architect of the period and the complex was under consideration for listing until earlier this year. Its dilapidated condition was the justification for removing it from the list, but it is more likely that it was pressure exerted by the developers, one of Moscow’s most powerful companies, who have shown an interest in the site. The complex is now unprotected and is under imminent threat of demolition while the developers work on plans for an elite housing complex to replace it.
Oops, I mean http://www.maps-moscow.ru
all because of sucking old vagina like fag.but all pros like dump.fuck you all sarah abramove lickers.
to sarah: Yeah and the bronx in NY is also a fucking old farts communist technology:)…stupid bitch whaha
I am sure that majority of “inner city troubled youth” in America would love to live in a courtyard like this. It would give them a chance to pull the car parts off of those 3 imported cars and sell them for crack.
oops, I mean http://www.maps-moscow.com
just one more oops please:P
“…At present we got used to think of Moscow as about clean and bright city….”
Mr. webmaster, you truly are an idiot.
Moscow is a ‘clean and bright city’????
Where the hell do you live, Pokrovskiy hills?
http://www.hines.com/property/detail.aspx?id=228
I live near the centre of Moscow, (on the Garden Ring) and it is FAR from clean and bright…
“we got used to think of Moscow as about clean and bright city”
Perhaps you can take consolation in the fact that the rest of the world never shared that misconception…
Although I hardly think these pictures show anything that’s even close to the worst of Moscow.
First I think this doesn’t look that bad at all - I saw much worse spots.
Second, like most people already said, it’s a sad and sold-out city. Everything nice and beautiful is subject to being demolished and ‘prestigious’ apartment buildings are put in its place. Thanks to Luzjkov the ‘excellent’ Moscow mayor and his wife. Moneygrabbers.
Lack of green makes it even more depressing, even in the Garden ring. Hardly any ‘normal’ shops are left - the rich have to shop by helicopter I guess, no simple supermarkets available in the neighborhood: property is too expensive to be wasted on simple shops. [A flagship store for Louis Vuitton is a different story, of course.]
On the outskirts of Moscow you find the real shitty places. In general the public space is unkempt, poor roads with potholes everywhere, grass a meter high, nettles everywhere, stinking garbageheaps - not a pretty sight. The Moscow household garbage is collected and dumped behind huge mud walls [like on the road to Dolgoprudny] and buried there. The smell is not nice. The slowly eroding Khrustjovska’s [probably the poorest quality buildings imaginable] make the picture complete. Complete disrespect for the average citizen rules over there. Those with a little bid more money have better places, nice brick houses, but behind high walls, guards, the works. The more money, the higher the walls. A golden Gulag.
In Russia the ratio between the average income of the poor and the rich [not even counting the actual oligarch's income] is 41. In Sweden i.e. [socialist country par excellence] it is 3 to 4. In the US it is ca. 10 to 12. Capitalism rules in Russia more than anywhere else in the world.
St. Petersburg is the only nice city left in Russia. It has a human scale, quality buildings and style. Lets hope it stays like that. Even the rundown places in St. Pete look better than those in Moscow.
These ratios are meaningless without backup data to support how they were calculated.
…only if you don’t know Russia, Sweden, or the U.S. I can believe it even without the data,
So check this: http://ziza.es/2007/07/23/La_vida_de_vagabundos_americanos_42_fotos.html
You need to understand the counter-culture of the “alternative lifestyle” in order to comment about these pictures. In the US, everyone has an opportunity. Our jobless rate is extremely low right now. If these people have the mental capacity, a clean (crime-free) background, and can pass a drug test then they should be able to get a decent job. It’s more likely that they just don’t want to trade their drugs for a job. They look like they are protesters that live in Seattle or kids in Hollywood.
Someone should make a photo documentary about people on the streets of Moscow at around 8 PM. When almost every pedestrian (male of female) holds a 0.5L bottle of beer in his/her hand and openly drinks from that bottle while walking, without hiding its contents. Some even drink beer with high alcohol content (9% by vol, made by adding some vodka into it), and some drink those horrible canned cocktails – essentially a cheap carbonated beverage made by mixing a low quality alcohol with artificial flavoring, sold in 0.5L cans (couple of those babies, and you are a happy camper for the rest of the night
…if you don’t mind your kidneys disintegrating in the process that is). This scenery always strikes me as agonizingly depressing, and it is a part of “normal”, everyday Moscow life, not some kind of “alternative lifestyle”. Seriously, this would be a great documentary.
Lets make it in 3D.
Yes, St Petersburg is very nice. It has that European grandeur and feel that Peter the Great wanted, I think
as for the author….what would you write too make us look at this pictures and have something to discuss about???
i think if you wrote: LOOK!! 2 pics from Moscow….it wouldn’t be interesting…
Oh come on you see court yards like that in just about every eastern european city. Its really nothing a bit of paint cant correct. Its lack of up keep. Northing more.
btw, stop trying to steal the north pole, its ours!
i think one can find even worser places in Canada.
As for the northpole….what you talking about?????…anyway I think that you have enoug northpole in your country…why bothering getting more ice???
“btw, stop trying to steal the north pole, its ours!” ))) hahahahaha!!!
2 Adam: Who to you has told, what north pole yours? )
Spit to this person to face! hahaha!!!
If America wants North Pole America will get North Pole through hook or by crook. How do Russkies intend to take North Pole with rusted fleet?
Huh? Moscow clean and bright? I’ve never thought someone could think that way, but then again, I’ve never been to moscow yet.
The photos were a lot cleaner than my idea of what Moscow looks like. But then again, having visited some other Russian cities, I’d say that the photos are sure far from being the worst the city has to offer…
wich cities have you visited then??
I was in Vologda (and Molotshnoje), Jaroslavl, Nizhnij Novgorod and Piter. Why?
So Moscow has some crumbling infrastructure… big deals! Who can care about it. The burning question is if Igor is a Baldy Fag then what is Pros… a Hairy FAG?
there are people who have to do their own laundry and hang it outside? Do they not have, like, servants or something to do it for them? it cant be, not in big,clean, bright moscow
NEVER saw anything like that in Moscow (and i lived there for 22 years), but i dont say these fotos are fake - maybe it exists somewhere in the city, but is not usual at all…
I like the grunge look… that’s art !!
True Moscow .
I was in Moscow in April of 2000. The masonry of the Kremlin was perfect. When I travelled a little, I saw these projects and it looked as though untrained baboons had laid the brick! I am sure I could have trained baboons to do better.