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What if USSR didn’t collapse and stayed till year 2050? This was a fantasy of the creators of this new show on Russian TV. They tried to set the scene in nearest future. The story begins how the Russian time traveller went to year 1986 and prevented the Chernobyl accident from the happening. Then he got back into his year and found out that his reality has changed: no more Russian Federation, but Soviet Union was in 21st century! And here how it looked like.
City streets were like this.
Giant media screens displayed workers portraits.
You can see a street ad of “Moskvitch 712″. Sort of a tribute of a famous Soviet small car Moskvitch-412 from 1970s.
Everywhere you can see Soviet symbolics.
A huge Lenin projection between the pipes.
Streets are filled with small cars.
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What a joke ! USSR was a failed state, and there is no way some western cars would fill its street in the 21st century. That would not exist, not more than the so-called Wunderwaffen from Putin (which are just revivals of failed Soviet projects…)
You are just envious of the great Russia and their excellent President. Yes, many things could have been better, but strong and evil forces work against Putin and Russia and wants to destroy what they have achieved. Many things has got far better under Putin, but you wont read about it in any western news site, quite the opposite.
Russia /= fUSSR, you know that right? Putin’s successes are based on a capitalist economy and foreign investment. Essentially every step forward Russia makes now is confirmation of Soviet failures. As for Putin, despite his obvious evil nature and malice, you can’t really argue with success. He’s a man worthy of respect if not admiration.
I am sure communism had its nice sides, but it cant work in this world. It is impossible, cause there will always be corruption by evil. Thank God Russians has been allowed to search for the truth again, and are allowed to worship the truth, the only one, Jesus Christ.
It is always so: a nation prospers, then the people demand more intrusive government. The nation collapses because it is impossible to support as much government as the people demand. Then the people grieve for the glory that used to be, even though they are much more prosperous without it.
What is the name of the show?
This is from the TV series “Chernobyl” 2 season
Oh, that’s gonna be hard to google, because it’s not a unique search term. Are any episodes accessible online anywhere? Do English subtitles exist?
A perfect failed state is Cuba. Remember that new cars are not banned in Cuba. US cars are not allowed to be sold in Cuba….then why are not Korean and Japanese cars in Cuba? Answer: there is NO money to buy them. Communism creates horrific mass POVERTY..
When America embargoes someone, they also threaten to sanction any of their business partners who would be doing business with the embargoed country. The threat is: Trade with Cuba, and we won’t trade with you.
While that threat isn’t enforced in every case, it’s pretty effective in deterring trade with Cuba and thus retarding the country’s development.
Which leaves us with one question: If Cuba’s system by itself is so inefficient, why go to this effort to curb and hamstring it and make it look bad?
ARIF….you raise interesting and challenging points. The government of Cuba desires to be all powerful and thwarts private entrepreneurs in Cuba, thus limiting economic infrastructure. Few free counties want to trade with a communist or fascist nation. This is because they lack finance and manufacturing abilities to support even imported items such as cars. Fidel Castro had an extreme distaste for the poor people of Cuba and saw no advantage for improving their situation in life. Bottom line is that Castro disliked human beings and was a confirmed narcissist and sociopath.
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Its axiomatic that the system of government of Cuba is inept. It favors only the ruling elite.
> The government of Cuba desires to be all powerful and thwarts private entrepreneurs in Cuba, thus limiting economic infrastructure.
Do they? Given the choice, China, which was too big to be contained by America, and whose development America has come to depend upon, chose a path that, however communist in politics, does not thwart private entrepreneurs and limit economic infrastructure (the development of which is also often a function of state, not private entrepreneurship). Cuba never had that choice. To this day America embargoes Cuba and continues to militarily occupy Cuba’s most important natural harbour, all of which artificially retards Cuban development and choice in the matter. If I thwarted private entrepreneurs in *my* country, would that be evidence I’m trying to be all-powerful? How about if I thwart private entrepreneurs in *another* country, in any other country that doesn’t toe my line? I would suggest to you that on the evidence, the government of America desires to be all-powerful and thwarts private entrepreneurs and limits economic infrastructure in Cuba.
> Few free counties want to trade with a communist
If that’s so, then why the need for America’s embargo and open threats to anyone who would?
> or fascist nation.
Is it “fascist” if I supposedly “thwart private entrepreneurs” at home, or rather, much more relevant, thwart and expropriate exploitative foreign colonialist banana republic companies which happen to be American?
How about if I start wars of aggression in the Middle East, in Indochina, in Central Asia, etc.? Is that any more “fascist”?
> This is because they lack finance and manufacturing abilities to support even imported items such as cars.
Does China, who America lost control over and couldn’t contain, lack that infrastructure?
> Fidel Castro had an extreme distaste for the poor people of Cuba and saw no advantage for improving their situation in life. Bottom line is that Castro disliked human beings and was a confirmed narcissist and sociopath.
You meant the POTUS, right?
> Its axiomatic that the system of government of Cuba is inept. It favors only the ruling elite.
Every government’s role is to leave the next generation better off. Whatever the government of Cuba is doing, America is currently restarting another Cold War, which increases the threat of a nuclear holocaust, and America is almost alone in trying to literally destroy the planet, causing a wholly foreseeable global climate disaster threatening the lives of future generations of millions, even billions of poor people, all to benefit a rich American few today.
Even in America itself, we already know that the generation of Millennials is worse off than their parents’ generation.
I would suggest to you that on the evidence, America’s regime is inept. It favours only the ruling elite.
But you said something interesting: You said it was *axiomatic* that the system of government of Cuba is inept. An axiom is something you believe to be true without proof. So I agree with you: It is axiomatic that the system of government of Cuba is inept and only favours the ruling elite: It’s an axiom *to you*. That’s what you believe, religiously, as a starting point for all your philosophy, without ever questioning it.
It is not, however, a conclusion you would necessarily have to arrive at if you ever *did* seriously question it.
ARIF:…..Your snarky swipe at the ”POTUS” reveals your mind. I’ll leave it at that.
Douglas:…..Your snarky swipe at Fidel reveals your mind. You leave it at that.
A government’s only role is to prevent any other group from taking control. A citizen’s role is to control his government. That is why all governments eventually treat citizens as enemies of the state.
So many people don’t understand why the SU failed. So many don’t understand communism. Sad actually. Take the best of communism, the best of socialism and the best of capitalism and see the country flourish.
Socialism/communism NEVER lasts. Once you run out of other peoples money to spend, once the people figure out they don’t need to work hard to achieve, since hard work NEVER gets you a better lot in life, it will collapse on itself. Chernobyl wasn’t the reason why the USSR failed. It was corruption and the Communist system.
> Once you run out of other peoples money to spend
Like the way America’s financialization “wealth creators” do?
> hard work NEVER gets you a better lot in life
…is something that incidentally is true for the majority of Millennials in America.
Will it last? We’ll see.
Marxist communism ignores human nature. People don’t like to be treated like a herd of cattle. You notice that millions of people are not illegally crossing borders to get into the well known communist and former communist countries of the world. When did you last hear about millions of people sneaking into China, Venezuela or even Cuba?
Earlier, we (or I) talked about what happens when America sanctions someone. Economic warfare of course has economic consequences. When America impoverishes other countries, that has consequences. It’s not all America’s fault of course; plenty of mistakes and delusions all over the world even without America. However, the fear that some of those other countries might become attractive success stories even when not toeing the line is exactly why America wages economic warfare against them. This is a major aspect of what’s called domino theory. Look it up. There’s a Wikipedia article too. You’re not supposed to even consider the possibility of alternatives, because next thing you know, people(s) might kick out United Fruit and nationalise “British” oil fields in their country, and even the great unwashed in America itself might seriously push for health care or a living wage and economic human rights.
On Cuba: If America even just fully lifted the tourism sanctions that largely prevent ordinary Americans from going on holiday there and spending their own money at will, that would probably be enough for Cuba to comfortably sustain itself and become a bit of a success story in the region – which also would attract American expats in serious numbers again.
On China: There is a substantial community of American expats in China. Some of those are part of a very well-off elite (e.g. in Shenzhen and Shanghai) that has determined, correctly, that America is on the wane insofar as it has largely been taken for most it’s worth, and that the real growth opportunities are in China. Others are more modest people who came from an English teaching background and stayed for all China has to offer. Look for laowhy86 on YouTube for an example. (He’s recently been back and forth though.) China has recently changed the rules, actually, to the point where they’re becoming more selective about who they let in. That probably means that a good few Westerners are trying to skirt those rules and sneak in as you say. There are increasingly more African, etc. foreigners in China as well.
I’m not as familiar with Venezuela, beyond a general awareness that the aggressive Saudi/American measures to depress the oil price were in no small part aimed at Venezuela and Russia, both of whom did rather well before that unconscionably depraved, environmentally calamitous, and chiefly American act of economic war.
Russia, btw., used to have a funny community of American expats, and if you think I’m being insufficiently deferential to Uncle Sam, you should google some of the things those guys used to publish or like to read in The eXile.
Even when a system has never worked, there is always somebody who thinks it will work if he can just write a clever enough constitution.
fUSSR was circling the drain. Chernobyl had really nothing to do with it’s failure. 100 years of trying and failing to make communism work… but magically now the things that didn’t work suddenly do?