23 The Soviet Crimea

The Soviet Crimea

Posted on May 7, 2014 by tim

Some photos from Crimea while in its Soviet Past. For some part of time, it was a part of the Soviet Republic of Russia, later it was “gifted” to Ukraine by Kruschev, but in any case at that time it was one country, no borders, no differences in laws and one army.


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23 Responses to “The Soviet Crimea”

  1. Vijay says:

    Amazing set of pictures. Thanks for sharing. Also good selection of
    subjects today. These are very informative, educative.

  2. Bobb says:

    Soviet Russia was all sunshine.

  3. Peter Thompson says:

    It seems that the breakup of the Soviet Union was not such a good idea after all ……… has only brought about political trouble and suffering.

    • Putin says:

      good “idea” are you drunk or just biased? The Soviet Union collapsed economically and politically. Soviet states and many other of the 15 CIS were sick and tired to be part of a polarized, authoritarian government. People and culture, yes nice and all. But come on, people are free, its in our GENES.

      • NA says:

        The economy was not well-managed but as far as people being sick?.. I’ve moved to Canada 18 years ago and I can tell you people of USSR times, especially during Brezhnev, were much happier than most people I see here who are sitting on depression pills afraid to go outside and all they care for is the new iPhone and shopping. As far as I can tell you I’m just a slave here just like you are. And the reason USSR collapsed, well, thank Gorbachev for speeding it up, however he did actually confirm recently that Putin fixed the mistake of Krushev. You’re just afraid to say anything good about slavs because you’ve been brainwashed into thinking that the west is the only civilization to know what happiness is, you’re full of false pride because I’ve seen your freedom here too. I mean look at you- you’re fuming in rage, if you were so happy you wouldn’t care to even be here, let alone say something which you’ve never experienced.

        • Putin says:

          Slavic people are brilliant! Space pioneers, best scientists, free thinkers. No objection. But why the same people are unhappy now? My opinion not due to capitalism but due to materialism. Same happens in China, even though they are communist. So the answer is not kicking off capitalism, but being living more and spending less, like the soviets did greatly.

          • NA says:

            That’s very true. The same post-soviet people are canibalizing each other now mainly because of materialism, but materialism is surely the side-effect of capitalism. From my understanding of both sides, and I speak by comparison and in general terms, it’s the inability of mostly older generation to re-adjust to the new society of independent venturing that plagued many soviet people of post-soviet era. Generally, a soviet citizen didn’t have to hunt for a job like you have to in western society, the education was strong and free for all, housing was bland but almost guaranteed by the state as long as you worked. Most of soviet citizens lived a relatively relaxed life back by the confidence in the state which gave basic necessities but failed to address the instinctual side of human individualism. And so you have a person who finds himself in a wild jungle once he realizes that now he has to make all the hunting for himself in a new world. But those who had enterpreneural spirit have made themselves immensly rich by capitalizing on eroding political system especially after privatization period, that explains the oligarch phenomenon partially. Hence you have big discontent between many of those who found it hard to re-adjust to the new society and a handful of those who managed to pluck the fruits of ills of those times. And so the balance tipped when you have such a gap between the ordinary class and the rich class which wasn’t the case during soviet times where most people were relatively equal. Speaking of youth who experienced post-soviet era: what kind of principles did they learn from those turbulent ‘transitioning’ times- those who have money are the ones who call the shots, and those who make money are ussually the ones who are generally criminal in nature. And so selfishness became a virtue and means to an end. Most youth nowadays doesn’t want to work hard because they simply feel that their parents were fools of the system and they’d rather earn big or nothing at all. And when you have such values in place surely all those great achievements of their parents are not sought-after anymore. However, I do find that the genetic heritage of civilizations lives on in all of us, but it constantly evolves and there are good signs that all is not lost as slavic people transition themselves into a more globalized world. That’s my general perception at least.

            • Putin says:

              NA, i meant “sick and tired” :)
              Soviet union had good ideas, but state control of media and locked borders are not good. Humans are free by essence. But i do NOT think it was evil as sometimes pictured in USA.

              • NA says:

                I apologize for my misunderstanding of your initial statement. In that sense you’re absolutely correct, Putin. So funny to refer to you as Putin) Isolation from the rest of the world is never healthy, and it was bound to be broken sooner or later, but for the sake of social experiment it showed some interesting results. I also thought today about your question on why post-soviet people are unhappy today and it led me to another conclusion which has to do with faith. In the soviet state, religious beliefs were replaced by the belief in the state’s ideology. Citizens were mostly secular since religious values were replaced by the ideology of collectivism. Many soviet children went through schools were they were taught this system of values of being a good citizens of the state working for a common long-term goal. It was somewhat naïve but mostly good in nature and for as long as the state worked people believed in it and it united people across many cultural regions, which was an amazing achievement. To understand that era better, you must watch some soviet movies and get a sense of it- they were romanticized but mostly good in nature which is really hard to find nowadays. The loss of faith is generally what plagued post-soviet citizens. Years of abandoned religious values and a failed social ideology put people on the brink of desperateness as they searched for their new identity and as you can see this search still goes on today but many don’t really realize it. To me personally, consumerism is a form of ‘the last resort’ system because it makes citizens subdued to the state but fails to advance humanity. And you’re right, it was not as evil as pictured. In soviet union there was no strong rhetoric about the opposing camp despite the external politics. In fact, many were encouraged to believe that both could co-exist. But I think in the west, especially the US, Reaganism gave way to this black and white thinking. And it still echoes today. What people must understand is that it wasn’t about good or evil, but mostly a struggle for financial influence. Isolation of USSR was promoted due to the fact that Stalin realized the effect of dollar dominance as he tried to free the state from its dependence. I think this lack of understanding on how to share global resources is what sparks confrontations even today. Thanks for listening guys.

                • Putin says:

                  Good reasoning NA. But lack of religion post-soviet is probably not the root cause, there was a boom of religions in most CIS countries.

                • Darius says:

                  I think both the US and the soviets used the name of the other side as a scary word when it was useful for them to achieve certain goals. Don’t do this because this will lead to capitalism. Don’t do that because then will have a socialism! For the US it is well shown in the movie Sicko. There is no soviet union anymore, but some politically active US personas use socialism as a scary word (just not it is “socialism like in Europe”).

            • Darius says:

              To be honest I think we have to remember that the world is changing also. West has also changed since soviet times. US is a too much different culture to notice that. But I see that here in the western Europe – the old generation has a much different attitude to the life, and what is important in life. Much more close to the soviet values of life. The young generation is all the same – the same problems in the West and in the East.

    • Mick Rogers says:

      I quite agree Peter

      • Putin says:

        most people who left USSR after the fall, and who fled during it will not agree with you. If you read below even Peter himself changed his mind.

  4. Peter Thompson says:

    To Putin and NA ….. thanks for correcting my initial impressions and assessment. I have a huge regard for Russia and it’s people and hope very sincerely to get back there for another visit.

    • NA says:

      Thanks Putin. It’s true what you say about religious emergence in post-soviet era. But that explains the vacuum that had to be filled when faith was lost, and I would like to make distinction between faith and religion. Most of such religious movements (or cults) were what I would refer to as pseudo-religions. I remember quite well the emergence of such strange cults that predicted the end of world, the jehovah witness, and all kinds of strange and dubious organizations unheard of before, and also I remember people being glued to the TV watching hypnotic ‘healers’ like Kashpirovsky. The point is when SU collapsed, people were easily taken advantage of because they were searching for the ‘new direction’. The great thing about capitalism is that it is more results-oriented which is easier to measure by material gain. I can clearly see the argument between the two parties and a capitalist asking ‘well, show me what you got? I’ve got a big house, a car and look at my hollywood smile. What do you have better?’ The answer would be :’well, i’m just happy inside and i dont feel like i need more.’ And a reply would be “well, you havent seen true happiness. if you’re happy now, then you would be 10 times happier living on my side then.’ I only say that because I know many people who went through this conversion process but lost something along the way. Problem with capitalism is that it feeds egoism and it rewards it. I have several relatives living in western society who have million dollar houses, sit-at-home wives, several children, and the ability to travel around the world when they see fit. Yet they’re unhappy inside! Their marriage is shambles and kids are a mere reflection of growing egoists such as their parents. I could never fully understand that before. And my only answer is of course because that is the price you pay for living in a material world and even if they’ve mastered that aspect yet they feel like it’s the pinnacle of all achievements and that hinders any further search. I’ve had grand parents living in post-soviet countires who barely survived on pension yet they were much more pleasing people to be around with and I felt happiness within them. My point is that we all need material happiness, but it should only be limited to what is only necessary and people should look to expand their emotional development when they reached that material self-sufficiency. And that’s what I think is missing in western societies mostly. I’m mostly generalizing of course. People isolate themselves because they’re afraid that their neighbor lives a better life and that by exposing his failures he’s dubbed as a loser because his neighbor’s car is better, hypothetically speaking. And of course such is they case in post-soviet societies now- people are submerged in this materialistic shallowness and would rather not eat anything but look good on the outside because at least they will feel better about themselves in front of others. And so there is very little socializing going on and it explains why people suffer from psychological disorders while the pharmaceutical giant companies make profits on selling what appears to be the solution to the problem but instead turns out to be a plot for population control. What I can say was really good during soviet times is that people were by far less isolated between each other, there was a lot more socializing going on and people seemed to be focused more on emotional development. I’m not praising either side because clearly there were advantages and disadvantages on both sides and all people should learn from both of them.

      • Putin says:

        200% agree. Less is more. I work for 15 years and never bought a car. Don’t need it. Live on a rental place, have freedom to move. But i fully agree, you are truly happy when you share things, and feelings. Selfishness and materialism are just stupid (in my head i imagine humans as little monkeys collecting bananas to say they are cool). In fact they will be tired to manage all those bananas :))))) So of course that in the end means nothing, having the basic is enough if you have a proper education from your parents.

        • Roj says:

          Well, in capitalism you have the choice to steer your life in anyway you deem fit. You wish to blow your savings on a new car, vacations and clothes or follow a materialistic lifestyle because certain people in your society do so then be my guest. You wish to be conservative with your expenses, save up for the future and invest in developing yourself, you also have option to do so. Its vague or almost impossible to not be biased when claiming that people are more miserable/happy in any of the above systems. Its up to the individual but I’d still vote for capitalism since it gives you the choice and options to adapt accordingly.
          I live in a consumer capitalist globalized society and I see that there are genuine people out there who are working hard to better themselves and their surroundings as much as there are those who are miserable, superficial and find fulfillment in materialism.
          I own a 3 year old cell phone, a 14 year old car, I work temp jobs, barely get paid and I only buy stuff I desperately need. I feel stressed out due to how such a society is fast paced or competitive but I also enjoy the fact I am in charge of my own life and future. I also enjoy the fact many people out there have been very supportive and encouraging in supporting me emotionally and mentally.
          I find fulfillment in buying some material goods and rewarding myself for the hard work I do. This does not mean I am materialistic or I use it as an alternative to interacting and bonding with society and other humans which is something money cannot buy.

          One thing for certain, look at China’s booming consumer class. As soon as their middle class started growing and they started to move out of isolationism, a lot of them embraced consumerism and materialism. This tells a lot about the fact many there find fulfillment in acquiring luxuries and goods they only dream of 2 decades ago.. Perhaps they are compensating for an emotional gap as their society and system is very much dysfunctional, corrupt and there is a huge depression epidemic in china that is not being surveyed or studied properly.

  5. MAXDMG says:

    On the second page, a third photo of the twin-tube…. Lanier it is Admiral Nakhimov which will sink in 1986 with a bunch of dead(

  6. Mick Rogers says:

    I have been told by a Czech neighbour that folk who lived in the USSR were better off under that system, whether that is the truth I don’t know being Australian. I have Russian friends who wish to leave but not all wish to leave, it’s not so easy living under the capitalist system believe me

    • Darius says:

      I come from Baltics. There some people miss old times. But that is mostly the older generation (but not all). The younger generation does not have this “problem”.
      So I think if you grew up in one system, it is not easy to live in a different one. Especial if one system did a lot of things and thinking for you (like decided where to work, who to elect etc.). It’s like you do not have some needed skills to “survive” in the new system.

  7. Mick Rogers says:

    I quite understand Darius you would certainly need skills, yes my neighbour and I are old very old he is 73 I am hoping for my 80th in October. I am not old fashioned but my neighbour is. Nice to comment in such a friendly manner too.

  8. Douglas says:

    Me USA . Russia in 2017 still seems to be poor country with benefits. Food is cheap mostly but you have to work at job if you pay rent.

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