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31 The Best Ground-Based Air Defense System in the World

The Best Ground-Based Air Defense System in the World

Posted on April 22, 2014 by tim


 

 

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An air defense brigade based near Moscow has the new generation of anti aircraft missiles the S-400 “Triumph” or SA-21 Growler as NATO calls them.  Those are still cannot be bought by foreign countries and are used for Russian defense only, however there was an information that China got an approval for getting some of those. But only after 2016 when Russian army is planned to get its stock of the missiles. As wikipedia says those air defense missiles are unbeaten by any of the air defense systems in the world and is much more effective than American “Patriot” system. All the systems including this one are almost brand new as the first complexes were shipped only in 2007. So here are the widescreen, clickable photos of what is being called “the best ground-based air defense system in the world” by Pravda.ru:

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31 Responses to “The Best Ground-Based Air Defense System in the World”

  1. Andy says:

    With Obama and Kerry and NATO issuing new threats to Russia almost daily, moving warships into Black Sea, building bases in Romania, etc. etc. I am very glad that Russia has these things! Let us hope they don’t have to be used.

    • George says:

      kerry and obama are idiots. They don’t know what they’re doing, and what ever they’re doing, they’re not issuing threats. Can you not even buy a clue?

  2. me says:

    Did anyone else noticed “easy to detach” stickers on side of the truck (second page). Maybe a preparation for Ukraine :D

  3. Billy says:

    Is the S400 the best? Not exactly. A proper air defense is multi-layered. And the best air defense is no longer a missile, it is a laser. All American warships are being fitted with Laser anti-missile systems.

    As far as a missile system, the S 400 is not the best. It is close. The S400 is not hit to kill, it is a HUGE, fast, heavy 4000kg, long range, high altitude SAM, with a proximity fragmentation warhead. The U.S. has a similar missile with similar capabilities. But, it is not the pac3, that is a hit to kill missile. A better comparison is the SM-2 BK4 AER which has comparable range of 400km, but only weighs 1500 kg. There is a better performing missile than both the S400 and SM-2BK4 AER, the SM-2 ERAM. This is a spin-off which incorporates a AMRAAM active seeker. This is an advancement from the current semi-active guidance. This missile has a slightly longer operating range against low flying targets flying near or beyond the horizon. The maximum range of S-400 and SM-2 BK4 AER are useless against a target flying low and below the radar span beyond the horizon.

    The S400 has several vulnerabilities. It’s internal databus is easily jammed. Speed comes at cost. Fool it once, it has no capability or fuel to re-engage. It has a huge heat signature that makes it easy prey for a heat seeker counter measure.

    It’s support vehicles include a huge Radar Array and emitter that completely give its position away. So, the entire system is an easy target for low flowing missiles or armed drones. The S400 does come with an Avtobaza jammer, but its missiles cannot be launched when it is on for obvious reasons.

    With the Jammer off at the prep stage, or when the missile is in flight, the S400 support vehicles are vulnerable.

    There is a three minute window, a low flying Tomahawk would kill an S400 battery before the crew knew what hit them.

    • George says:

      Best thing going for them is they’re mobile.

      • Bobb says:

        They are really BIG so they must be great!

      • Billy says:

        Mobile? At a top speed of 35-40 miles an hour, not very. This is not like the old days. Modern sensors can pick these up. Especially when the emitter or the Jammer Avtobaza come on. There a half a dozen X37B military version in near earth orbit at any given time. What is their mission? One is mapping and tagging mobile launchers..

    • Clark says:

      You make some good points, especially about multi layered defense, but then:
      “There is a three minute window, a low flying Tomahawk would kill an S400 battery before the crew knew what hit them.”

      And that’s what Pantsir-S1 is for. Defending a “Semi-mobile” S300/S400/S500 battery against PGM/cruisemissile attack.

      Plus whatever launches the “attacking weapon” would need to get within range first. Low flying cruise missile sized targets (< 0.1m² RCS) can be found and engaged at ranges in excess of 65nm by the S400 battery itself. [That would even make a relocation possible, as the CM would need about 5-6 minutes to cover that distance]
      A Glidebomb type PGM (JSOW etc) can be located from 30nm and engaged from 10nm by the Pantsir.

      So yes, as for every system, saturation attack is possible. But then is it viable to fire 50-100 $1Million CMs against a §50-100 Million battery? What if one throws one or two lost launch aircraft [F-15E, B-1B...] for "conventional" PGM into the mix. Afterall, as you said, a S400 Battery does not operate in a "vacuum", but in an IADS.

      • Billy says:

        Absolutely correct Clark. It comes down tactics. You can fool systems like Pantsir with drones like the Israelis did in taken out the Syian reactor in operation Orchard. That reactor was protected by some very sophisticated air defense. The Israelis fooled them, took them all out in various ways. Their F16’s cam in finished the job on the reactor.

        But, it can work the other way. Take the attack by Hez and the Israeli corvette Hanit. They launched some missiles into Israel from behind a school. They new that an Israel F16 would come in response.

        Hez wanted to get an Israeli ship that typically are stationed off shore. They knew Israeli tactics very well. When the F16 would respond, the Hanit would have to turn off it’s defenses because of proximity of a friendly, Hez knew this.

        They fired off a C802.

        It did minor damage to the Hanit,

        If you look purely as a tactic, you would to say “Good Job Hezbollah”.

    • Khazar says:

      “Is the S400 the best? Not exactly.”

      That comment alone is enough evidence to indicate that you don’t know anything abut it.

      “A proper air defense is multi-layered.”

      S-400s are meant to be deployed with Pantsir-S1s ans Tor-M2s. The big S-400 engages stealth and bombers while the Pantsir and Tor engage HARMs and glide bombs. That’s quite effective since very few countries have a similiar doctrine.

      “And the best air defense is no longer a missile, it is a laser.”

      Oh yes, a laser is capable of hitting targets only from 15-20 km when its power output is 100kW. The US navy’s laser is only 1/10th of that. What’s funnier is that it can only engage one target at a time and cannot be deployed in foggy or rainy weather. The Laser Weapon system is made as a cheap alternative, NOT as a replacement. You’re a very special kind of stupid aren’t you?

      Source: http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/12/14/boeing-israel-chief-touts-laser-as-alternative-to-iron-dome-anti-missile-defense-system-video/

      “All American warships are being fitted with Laser anti-missile systems.”

      Only one has been equipped. Compare that to the 128 S-400 units currently in operation. I’m still astonished that you were stupid enough to compare a laser weapon with a range of <5 km to an S-400.

      "As far as a missile system, the S 400 is not the best."

      Of course not! Being the first to shoot down ballistic missiles is not an achievement at all. Look at the Gulf War of 1991. The Patriot had a success rate of <10%. It's clearly better!

      Source:

      "It is close."

      No system comes close to the S-400. Not even its predecessors.

      "The S400 is not hit to kill,"

      Is that suppose to be a liability? The S-400 utilizes multiple kinds of missiles. Two of them happen to be hit-to-kill and are very aerodynamic. They are the 9M96E and the 9M96E2. They have a shorter range at 40 and 120 km respectively. However, they are purely defensive and are more akin to the PAC-3. They are used for ballistic missiles.

      "it is a HUGE, fast, heavy 4000kg, long range, high altitude SAM, with a proximity fragmentation warhead."

      You're off by 2000 kg. Would it kill you to pull your head out of your ass? The heaviest missile the S-400 fires is 1900 kg.

      "The U.S. has a similar missile with similar capabilities."

      They don't.

      "A better comparison is the SM-2 BK4 AER which has comparable range of 400km, but only weighs 1500 kg."

      LOL. The SM-2 is restricted to naval installments and has a range of 160-185 km.

      "There is a better performing missile than both the S400 and SM-2BK4 AER, the SM-2 ERAM. This is a spin-off which incorporates a AMRAAM active seeker. This is an advancement from the current semi-active guidance. This missile has a slightly longer operating range against low flying targets flying near or beyond the horizon. The maximum range of S-400 and SM-2 BK4 AER are useless against a target flying low and below the radar span beyond the horizon."

      Not possible. If the radar can't see the target, the missile cannot be fired. You also left out the fact that the SM-2's missile speed is about 1,100 m/s. That's not enough to engage ballistic missiles and hypersonic missiles.

      "The S400 has several vulnerabilities."

      It seems as if though you don't know a single one of these.

      "It’s internal databus is easily jammed."

      In 2005, the Slovakians brought their export model S-300-PMU to test against NATO's means of air defense suppression. The results showed that the S-300 was very difficult to jam and nothing worked on it. So much for that inquiry about it being "easily jammed".

      "Speed comes at cost. Fool it once, it has no capability or fuel to re-engage. It has a huge heat signature that makes it easy prey for a heat seeker counter measure."

      The S-400 and the shorter range air defense systems that protect it are capable of defeating anti-radiation missiles, cruise missiles, aircraft, drones, helicopters, bombers, and ballistics missiles. Nothing is fool proof against it.

      "It’s support vehicles include a huge Radar Array and emitter that completely give its position away. So, the entire system is an easy target for low flowing missiles or armed drones."

      Easy target? The S-400 doesn't have a problem with such kinds of missiles. This isn't a cold war era SAM. It can capabilities that you don't even know about. It's not because they're top secret. It's because you're too uneducated to make a proper evaluation.

      "The S400 does come with an Avtobaza jammer, but its missiles cannot be launched when it is on for obvious reasons. With the Jammer off at the prep stage, or when the missile is in flight, the S400 support vehicles are vulnerable."

      The avtobaza is not associated with the S-400 system.

      "There is a three minute window, a low flying Tomahawk would kill an S400 battery before the crew knew what hit them."

      The S-400 has a reaction time of only a few seconds. A cruise missile is not even a snack for this system. In fact, it's not useful against any post-cold air defense system.

      "Mobile? At a top speed of 35-40 miles an hour, not very. This is not like the old days."

      You don't even know that difference between speed and mobility. The latter refers to the ability to go anywhere. With a set up and take down time of only 5 minutes the S-400 is very mobile. The Patriot on the other hand takes about 30 minutes to deploy.

      "Modern sensors can pick these up."

      You don't have a clue about what modern sensors are capable of. You've also left out the shorter range air defense systems that were meant to protect the S-400. The Pantsir-S1 comes to mind.

      "Especially when the emitter or the Jammer Avtobaza come on."

      For the last time, the Avtobaza has nothing to do with the S-400.

      Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/meet-the-russian-avtobaza-irans-possible-drone-killer-2011-12

      "There a half a dozen X37B military version in near earth orbit at any given time. What is their mission? One is mapping and tagging mobile launchers.."

      Locating them isn't difficult. Destroying them is. When short and long range systems work together in such a perfect harmony, they are virtually impossible to destroy.

      "You can fool systems like Pantsir with drones like the Israelis did in taken out the Syian reactor in operation Orchard."

      Pantsir-S1 became operational with Syria in 2008. Operation Orchard was in 2007. But don't take my word for it. Take a look at the SIPRI arms trade database: http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php

      "That reactor was protected by some very sophisticated air defense."

      In order to have a sophisticated air defense system, one needs a sophisticated air defense system. Syria did not have any Pantsir-S1.

      "The Israelis fooled them, took them all out in various ways. Their F16’s cam in finished the job on the reactor.
      But, it can work the other way. Take the attack by Hez and the Israeli corvette Hanit. They launched some missiles into Israel from behind a school. They new that an Israel F16 would come in response.
      Hez wanted to get an Israeli ship that typically are stationed off shore. They knew Israeli tactics very well. When the F16 would respond, the Hanit would have to turn off it’s defenses because of proximity of a friendly, Hez knew this.
      They fired off a C802.
      It did minor damage to the Hanit,
      If you look purely as a tactic, you would to say “Good Job Hezbollah”."

      Syria's modern air defense systems were delivered post 2007. Buk was received in 2010 and Pantsir-S1 in 2008. Prior to that, there was nothing formidable to stop Operation Orchard.

  4. ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΟΣ ΧΑΤΖΗΑΡΓΥΡΙΟΥ says:

    The beast ever.

    • Billy says:

      Feel free to man one of these batteries when the shooting starts. Best of luck, I really mean that.

      • Khazar says:

        If you had a hint of intelligence in that small brain of yours, you would learn to distinguish between that absurd and true. If you could, you wouldn’t be commenting half the garbage you posted.

  5. PO says:

    Saying the S400 is the thing in the world is part of the usual propaganda ;)
    Thanks for your feedback on that.

  6. Taneli Kanko says:

    I don’t know why, but all Russian technology and design seems very outdated…

  7. Rubl za butylku says:

    equipment old, only repainted, so it’s just propaganda – to trick US

  8. Billy says:

    Russia and Putin have tricked the U.S. more than a couple times. But, bur those operations involved a lot more than repainting a couple of trucks.

    Putin is a master at tactics. He has completely owned Bush and Obama.

    My favorite Russian operation was “Sarandar”. It worked so well, it took down a President and a nation.

    Well played Putin.

  9. Jane says:

    Tricked? How’s that economy going for you Russia? You’re leadership is working off of paradigms long since mothballed.

  10. lindelani says:

    wow, wow, wow, what an analysis, i love it very informative, as much as you guys are saying yours expert opinions, then the question come up, why USA is so worried about the sale of the S300 SAM to IRAN if indeed yours analysis is indeed true that these are not so top drawer air defence systems, and these worries have been echoed by top defence analyst and top Pentagon US Generals, once again i am not an expert in these matters but this realy makes me worried. just to quote one US General he says the S300 is the beast once that thing is launched no one wants to get net next to it, our (USA)penetration on IRAN AIR SPACE can only be possible with the B2 or the F35 or F22 raptor, i am just asking.

  11. bimal william says:

    The poor n developing counties buy russian arms as western country arms are expensive. But one thing for sure some of the weapons manufactured by Russia are the best for example AK 47 rifle. The western countries assult rifle can not match the firepower of AK 47. SA 400 is one of the best Air Defense in the world. Americans are the real culprits as they are creating terrorist such as Taliban against Soviet and IS against Syria. We are thankul to Russia as it is the only country who can stop US to act as a world policeman.

  12. Kerahdah says:

    The USA always pretends it has the best equipment. so, who ferries astronauts to the ISC? Certainly not NASA!!

  13. Cities Burn says:

    There are USA weapons systems that can 100% neutralize the S300, 400, and even experimental 500 along with any air, surface, or underwater craft or facility above or below ground, but will not be acknowledged or revealed simply because Russia and China are being permitted to spend themselves into bankruptcy with their presumed invulnerable weapons systems.

    Welcome to MY world of advanced physics applications.

  14. Mallam says:

    How will the US that still import jets engine from Russia and can’t single handedly quell all rhetoric war/terrorism fight it started will claim to have the best armed forces in the world . No No No

  15. Hamed says:

    Hi russian lover
    Is it possible to compare America military budget with Russia military budget ???? So military equipment of both countries are not comparable. I am an electronic engineer and interested in military equipment. Russian electronic equipment is not comparable with American electronic equipment even not comparable with a country like Sweden.
    Russia’s military Successful equipment such as AK47 rifles & RPG Grenade are copied from german technology (STG44 rifles & Panzerschreck ) .
    Seen very little innovation in the Russian equipment that represent a low budget in military studies.
    EXCAUSE me for my poor english.

  16. Avery Guardiola says:

    Wonderful article Thanks for sharing.

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