7 Round Ships of the Russian Admiral

Round Ships of the Russian Admiral

Posted on July 22, 2012 by team

After Russia’s loss in the Crimean war in 1856 Russia was forbidden to have any warships in the Black Sea by Treaty of Paris, leaving one of the most important parts of Russia – its only non-freezing sea ports and the area through which most of Russia’s sea trade went, unprotected.  Hence in the late-1860s Russia started to think about abrogating the terms of the treaty in order to protect its coast against rapidly deteriorating relations with Turkey. It was obvious that in the beginning the strategy for the Russian fleet would be purely defensive against relatively powerful Turkish fleet and so in the 1869 it was decided to build armored warships to protect the coast and the ports. This where the Rear-Admiral Popov comes in, in the 1860s he was the unofficial head of the shipbuilding in Russia.

It was during the design discussions, Popov suggested an idea that he had for a while – building round ships which would have carried heavy armor and armament on smallest draft and displacement. To prove the concept a small round steam launch with a diameter 3.35m was built. It proved successful enough for the construction of the full size ships to proceed. In 1871 with the defeat of France in the Franco-Prussian was Russia denounced the Treaty or paris and set about restoring it’s Black Sea fleet.

Initially 6 round ships were planned, but to begin with two were laid down in St. Petersburg in the beginning of 1871. If you are thinking that this sounds wrong as St. Petersburg is on the wrong sea, you are correct, but since the south of Russia was really underdeveloped in those years the ship hulls had to be laid down and built in St. Petersburg, then disassembled, shipped to the Black Sea port of Nikolaev in pieces, and then assembled again. This caused the immeasurable delays as the railroad to Nikolaev was only completed in the middle of the construction and sometimes reached absurdity, when it proved easier and cheaper to buy Russian wood in England and have it delivered to Nikolaev, rather than to ship it from the interior of the country.  Nonetheless the construction of the first ship, called Novgorod, started on 17 December 1871, while the second one, Kiev, was laid down in January 1872.  Novgorod’s construction proceeded relatively smoothly but Kiev became a platform for Popov’s experiments – new, lighter engines were ordered for it, armament and armor was increased and in the end the construction was stopped to await testing results of the first ship.  Due to a bad financial situation in Russia at the time the other four ships were at first postponed and then cancelled all together.

Due to various delays in supplying the materials Novgorod was launched only on 21 May 1873.  The ship was perfectly round with a diameter of 30.78m and displaced 2490 tons.  It was armored with 9″ upper and 7″ lower belts and 1″ armored deck.  In the central circular barbette, armored with 9″ armor, the ship carried two 26-ton 11″ guns.  The machinery arrangement was unusual, ship had six boilers and six engines arranged perpendicularly in the hull making 3360hp, each engine turning it’s own screw.  Three days after launch the sea trials of Novgorod began, during which it was determined that the top speed of the ship is 7 knots, which, as Popov triumphantly put in his message to headquarters, was equivalent to the speed of the other coast defense ships in the Russian navy at the time.  Soon afterward the guns were installed.  The gunnery trials showed a low rate of fire of 12-13 minutes per shot (which was also comparable to the other warships of the time), a maximum range of 4200m at the maximum elevation of 14.5 degrees and the ability to pierce 11″ of armor at 730m.  It was during the gunnery trials a legend about these ships was born – the guns on the Novgorod were installed on a circular track and the trials showed that the brakes that fixed the guns into position were too weak and during the shot they rotated on the track.  The brakes were fixed but the legend mutated into the rumor the entire ship rotated during shooting and persists to this day. Initially there was no aft superstructure on the ship only a light deck aft of the barbette with a steering wheel, but based on the sea trials a real superstructure with an enclosed bridge was added.  Overall the trials, predictably, showed that the ship had problems going against the waves since it’s low speed became even lower, but at the same time could ride out even a heavy storm with only light rolling.

The construction of the second ship was stopped in mid 1872 and the redesign work only resumed after the trials of Novgorod in August 1873 with what was called in the report by Admiral Popov “some changes shown by tests”.  In reality what was supposed to be a sister ship to Novgorod, became a completely different ship.  The ship was actually 6m bigger in diameter, becoming 36.57m, which necessitated the disassembly of the already built components.  The armament was increased to two 12″ guns and the maximum thickness of armor was increased to 18″.  On 13 August tsar Alexandr II allowed the construction of the redesigned ship and in October the ship was renamed Vitse-Admiral Popov in honor of its designer.  The actual work started only in the spring of 1874 while the ship was officially laid down on 27 August 1874.  The work was constantly interrupted by the problems with the delivery of parts.  The ship was launched on 25 Sept 1875.  The general layout of the ship was the same as the first popovka, but with everything being bigger.  The main belt and the barbette armor was now composed of two layers – a 9″ and a 7″ layer.   The ship had an amazing 8 engines and 12 boilers, making 4480hp, driving six screws (two inner screws were driven by two engines each).  The armament consisted of two 12″ disappearing guns and four 87mm light guns in the side sponsons.  Because of the expected war with Turkey the main guns were installed on the temporary mountings which were too weak for them, while the proper mounts were being made.  To improve the sea keeping the main superstructure was increased in size and resembled the hull of the normal ship.  The ship reached 8 knots during trials, and was 1.75 knots faster than Novgorod at full speed.  During the comparative trials between these two ships it was noticed that the outer screws were not effective and with only four screws the speed was only about half a knot less on either ships, the the outer engines and screws were removed to save weight, space and money.  After the removal of the outer engines Novgorod’s engines made a total of 2000hp while Popov’s 3066hp.

The Russo-Turkish war began on 12 April 1877 and both ships were assigned to the “active defense of Odessa”, which mean that they spent almost entire war at anchor there.  They left port only three times during the war spending about 4 days at sea.  Turks were sited near Odessa only once and the ships moved out to intercept, but Turks never came close enough to fire.  The ships proved themselves to be dissatisfactory in any role but defense, and the critics during the war pointed out that such an expensive investment for the only two proper warships in the theatre was unjustified, as in the end the war was fought by the converted merchantmen  and mine launches, while the purpose built ships proved useless.  The ships has the endurance of only 5 days coupled with their low speed meant that they couldn’t even get to the Turkish shore to attack it and given their slowness they couldn’t even intercept the Turkish warships that were attacking Russian shoreline.  In general, designed as the main force of the Black Sea fleet, they proved to be completely useless against everything but the direct attack on the city that they were protecting.

After the end of the war on 12 February 1878, in the summer of 1878 both ships made a successful outing to the Danube river and even went up the river to Sulin.  both ships maneuvered adequately in the river.  In January 1879 Popov finally received proper mounts for it’s main guns and during gunnery trials showed a rate of fire of 1 round every 14 minutes per gun, with the maximum range of 5500m.  Throughout the year machinery trials continued, and a good sea keeping of the ships showed a promise that they can be used on the open seas.  To increase endurance a sailing rig was proposed and to test out a concept three different small (two with 4.6m diameter and one with 6m  diameter) round sailboats were built.  They showed that it is possible to use sails to propel such a ship, but nothing was done to either popovka.

Despite a somewhat dissatisfactory debute of of his creations, Admiral Popov didn’t abandon an idea of a round ship and a while later he proposed a seagoing round ship with 24″ armor, four 16″ guns and 14 knot top speed.  Unfortunately the trials of hull models showed that to obtain a 14 knot speed with a round hull one would need 5 times the horse power compared to the 9 knot speed and the idea was shelved.  The trials showed that to reach the needed speed the hull had to be oval rather than round.  A perfect opportunity presented itself in late 1878 after Tsar’s Black Sea yacht run-around and was destroyed. Admiral Popov obtained permission to build a round yacht for the emperor.  The good sea keeping qualities of the Popovkas seemed perfect for an imperial yacht Livadiya and he would get an opportunity to try an oval hull for speed. Yacht, also called Livadiya, was built in England in 1879-81 and was not perfectly round but oval.  It displaced 4420tons and had a top speed of 14 knots.  Everything seemed fine, but on the trip from UK to Sevastopol the yacht ran into a heavy storm in the Bay of Biscay and while the rolling and pitching was very light, the water was hitting the shallow round hull with such a force that it felt like it was hitting a brick wall.  The hull was heavily damaged and required it to be repaired in one of the Spanish ports. Since there wasn’t a single dock in Europe that could hold the yacht, the repairs took over seven months.  After getting to the Black Sea, the yacht made only one trip in the its official capacity, during which it once again ran into bad weather and confirmed that the hull was hutting the waves with such a force that the superstructure vibrated and the hull was once again damaged.  After it returned to port the yacht was quietly stripped of all of its finery and left in the quiet corner of the port.

The era of Admiral Popov’s experiments came to a close with the ascension of tsar Alexander III to the throne, who disliked the admiral’s patron General-Admiral Konstanin Nikolaevich.  Admiral Popov, now without any official power, continued to pursue the idea of a round ship and apparently designed a 11000 ton oval battleship with eight 12″ guns.  Meanwhile the Livadiya was so disliked by the new Tsar that he refused to use it an ordered it to be scrapped (even the suggestion to use it as a prison ship was met with refusal).  Admiral Popov fought to save his creation writing letters to everyone who would listen, as even those who wouldn’t, asking to allow him to continue trials, promising or redesign the bow to solve the wave slapping problem. He was able to save the ship from scrapping but it never sailed again. In 1883 it was renamed Opyt and was initially proposed for a use as a troop transport but in the end the machinery was removed to be reused on other ships and it was used as a hulk.  In that form it survived into 1930s, when it was scrapped.  Two Popovkas had a different fate, up until mid 1880s they were the only large warships in the Russian Black Sea fleet, so both of them were kept in working order and periodically repaired.  After the proper battleships of the Ekaterina II class were commissioned the Popovkas left to quietly sit in port until in 1893 the question of their scrapping was raised.  Surprisingly the current head of the navy at the time turned out to be against scrapping them and wanted them to be repaired and placed in reserve.  When it turned out that both needed extensive (and expensive) repairs nothing was done, but the bureaucratic wrangling continued for the next 10 years, when finally in 1903, as completely useless, they were disarmed and were removed from the naval rolls.  They were both sold for scrap in 1911.

Some modelling of a “Vice-Admiral Popov” ship:

The kit comes from NNT models from Europe.  It is well cast in tan resin and contains a very nice photoetch fret.  The kit consists of 29 resin and 26 photoetch pieces.  Since there are basically no references that are available on it – I found two wildly different drawings, two very blurry and one sharp photo and that is it, I was not able to verify the accuracy of the kit, except that the basic shape, size and the layout seem to correlate with the available photographs.  The diameter of the hull is also correct given the available information.



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7 responses to “Round Ships of the Russian Admiral”

  1. DouglasU says:

    these ships were a big mistake. The motion of the waves on the wide hull made it impossible to aim the guns.

  2. bross says:

    Extra 🙂

  3. Osip says:

    The model maker has placed a cowl vent directly forward of the guns. Not a good location for obvious reasons.

  4. Igor says:

    And gun crew in those two cannons gets killed by gun recoil.

  5. René says:

    Good on paper only.

  6. kt315 says:

    This is not a full ship, but self-propelled pontoon with a very shallow draft for the defense of shallow water. The mouth of the Dnieper and Southern Buh.

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