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The consequences of borders and tribes (red ants and black ants).
do most german people speak english?and do most russia people also speak english?
Germans do speak english very well. Two reasons for that. After the war, most of germa was occupied by western allies and after signing NATO contracts etc. SO western Germany was on the USA-side and learning English at school was compulsory. Second thing is, that both, English and German are Germanic-Languages are lots of words aren’t very different. For Example: “My brother goes to school” is in German: “Mein Bruder geht zur Schule”. As a German, English is very easy to learn.
Most people here will understand you.
I don’t know about Russia, but I was in the Ukraine once and it was horrible. Young people do have basics in English language. My Russian is very very bad but I would’ve been lost without it.
Young germans speaks english. Not very well though. Most films are dubbed to german. Many smaller countries speak better, because they learn from tv.
Just looking at those leering, arrogant faces of the Germans – makes me feel sad for the poor people in the photos. The Germans, for the most part, behaved as beasts and showed nothing but cruelty to all on the Eastern Front.
The Red Army had absolutely no choice but to completely destroy these invaders, both in the Motherland, and all the way back to Berlin. The Third Reich was like a rabid animal and would never have stopped killing and torturing in the East. GOOD RIDDANCE
Hello Scott:
I am going to tell you something even m,ore horrible than what you see on the surface. The Nazi party needed to have victims to ensure the loyalty of its members.
You see after the Nazis took away as many rights as they could, then they would empower selected members by giving them the power of life or death over certain victims.
Quite literally, the Nazi’s cohesiveness was being derived from the idea that they could always find someone in a position to bully and mistreat. If the Nazi party did not have designated victims then their poorly paid functionaries would have had no incentive to continue to support them.
It was a two fold attack, if they could not hook their members with the idea that they could mistreat the victims as much as they wanted, then they threatened to make the possibly unwilling members into victims for the rest of them to mistreat. Carrot and the stick…Do you see? Not all Germans were Nazis, Pastor Neimuller (not sure if I spelled this correctly) spoke out against the Nazi party and its excesses and he suffered for having done so.
This Pastor was a U-Boat commander in the first world war, if memory serves me.
The Russians gave as good as they got…
Same with communist SSSR. Nations of Caucasus and Latvia, Estonia, Lituania and Finland tell you the same. Russians were invaders and Germans bring freedom to them. In reality, there is no difference between Nazi Germany and SSSR.
There is a difference in that one sixth of all Germans weren’t killed by the Soviets.
Well said that man !
@scott: the russians done the same thing on their way to berlin, raping, scavenging,burning all down.
The russians were as gruesome as the germans.
Those that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind.
SSSR started the war – ask in Finland. Germans attacked 3 weeks before Russians plan to attack Germany. And it was in the middle of Poland – divided to german and russian sector. SSSR was already an agressor when war started.
One sixth of all Poles or Finns weren’t just executed, were they. Thats what I meant.
The problem is with dates.
While records show that hundreds of thousands were killed by the Nazis from ’35 to ’45 (Hitler’s reign), there are NO records for the deaths from ’22 until ’53 (Stalin’s reign).
The hell kind of white-washing of Nazi warcrimes is this?!!
Hundreds of thousands? Srsly? Try millions.
Really? Millions of Poles or Finns? In all of Europe, absolutely! The exact number, unknown! Even Himmler, who claimed to keep track of this, said 10 million. The B’nai Brith say 6 million. The sign that said that has been taken down at Buchenwald. Despite all the rhetoric, NO ONE IS SURE! The only sure thing, NEVER AGAIN!
Not millions of Poles or Finns or even Jews! 15+ million Soviet civilian deaths, together with the 8 million military deaths mean that the Soviet Union lost a sixth of its population.
People often talk about the Jewish holocaust, in which some six or seven million were killed. Rarely do they ever recall that more than twice that number, of Soviet non-combatants were killed on the Soviet Front.
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didn’t see my first post
Actually, it was Poland who suffered the most in terms of percentagze of the whole population: more than 16% of the population died during World War II for the whole Soviet Union this was 13% and for Germany this was 10%. During the short occupation of east Poland by the Soviet Union several hundred thousand citizens were deported, about 150.000 to 200.000 died.
Yes der deutsche that is all true what you have written. Sadly yes; but let’s not forget who started the whole thing on June 22nd 1941. Do you also realize that in Belarus ALONE: the Germans razed over 1500 villages? And they conducted a campaign of annihilation/extermination on the Eastern Front from the very onset? They were a ruthless, evil nation -period-. Considering what pain and destruction they inflicted on Russia for 4 YEARS, they got off fairly lightly on the receiving end of a vengeful Red Army!
Well said.
There was soviet army (3 million men) prepared to attack Germany at same time. 3 weeks – and Russian will be bad ones in this conflict. And dot forget it started in the middle of Poland.
Rather than talking about what MIGHT have happened, talk about what did happen.
And scott wasn’t talking about the fighting, but about the 15 million Soviet civilians that the Nazis killed.
@manta… very thanks for your reply！where are you from？
The pictures are unwillingly showing the true face of the Soviet Paradise. I am sure Koba did not show barefoot peasants wearing rags to the naive communists from the West who made the hajj to their Mekka. It could make them think that even the poorest wino is dressed and eats better in their countries.
History lesson:
Hitler & Stalin made a contract to not fight a war against each other and that they will share the countries they invade together!, and now guess who overrun Eastpoland? The russians did.
The russians did the same the nazis did just with all countries in their reach.
The last concentration camp was closed in 1945, the last gulag was closed 1959!
Germany started the war, that’s true, but i nthe end the russians proofed that they where the same bastards, by taking the eye for an eye litereally.
Swastika or red star, it doesn’t matter the both commited gruesome warcrimes against innocent people.
and no mention of Beria, the penal battalions or the incompetent leadership of Stalin who saw fit to execute all competent Russian commanders before WW2. No doubt because any Russian, patriotic commander would have turned round and shot Beria and Stalin (mingrelian Turks) for their gross incompetence and hatred of the Russian people.
To quote Babysitter,
“In fact, “army purges” are more propaganda than serious issue that ruined the army. Overall, less than 10% of officers went through the trials and many of them were just fired but not sent to Siberia or anywhere. Only the highest command had it worse, with 3 of 5 marshals and many komandarms executed. Soviet army had much more significant problems that led to catastrophic year of 41, and the purge was not the most significant one.”
I am not convinced. The Finnish really gave the Red Army a bloody nose. Stalin was directly responsible for Katyn. There are plenty of examples of mismanagement and incompetence cropping up because the Politburo shot everyone who was had a brain and who could become an opponent. Can you answer why Stalin didn’t move any army units close to the German-Polish border and actually went into denial about the invasion (at first)??? Stalin was pure turkish mingrelian despot.
“the Politburo shot everyone who was had a brain and who could become an opponent.” Just because someone “has a brain” doesn’t make them an opponent. Zhukov is a great example.
The Red Army was being built up for aggression, with high emphasis on the airborne force, with whole army groups being formed up around them. While the airborn excel at launching quick attacks, they were not cut out for a long, protracted defensive war, where they were little more than light infantry. That would explain the sluggish Red Army before the winter of 41/42. As for Stalin, who knows what goes on in the mind of a maniacal mass-murderer.
“Stalin was pure turkish mingrelian despot.” I won’t disagree with you on that one.
There was ever only going to be one winner after the cowardly Nazis had raped and pillaged Mother Russia.
Just ask the people of Warsaw,London,Rotterdam,Coventry,Stalingrad and countless other towns and cities that were bombed to smithereens by the rat faced Nazis,ask them about their feelings on the Red Armys assault on the bullying Nazis !
The Nazi dogs got their just deserts,revenge was indeed sweet.
Long live Stalin and the Red Army !!
I read a book and they summed up the thing very well. Whoever has the most men and resources to fall back on is going to win. In any protracted “total war” if you have a piece of territory that extends from Bielorussia all the way to vladivostok you would need hundreds of millions of troops to fight all the way there (in era before nuke bomb). If Hitler had concentrated on invading the UK and promised Stalin the island of Ireland for keeping out of trouble I am pretty sure that would have worked. A free Atlantic base with low native population for the USSR (who would have left en mass) and the Wehrmacht could have finishedthe job with the UK that is nothing more than a lightweight pumped up with american steroids. London – Coventry would have been obliterated within a month.
But we ( The British )battered Goerings ( not so )mighty Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain,when it has to be said,Britain was on the ropes.Hitler had to win the sky over England before the Wehrmacht could ” invade ” they weren’t up to the task and in turn the Charlie Chaplin look-alike turned his attentions to the East and Operation Barbarossa.
Russian government under Stalin killed more of it’s own citizens,then the Nazi’s did.
Yes that would be true, if you count a significant amount of those killed by Nazi death squads also as being killed by the Soviets.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/mar/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, of course.
I’ve heard Russians met Germans with bread and salt as liberators during the war because they hated communism but loved Russia. Initially, the Germans were better than the communists, even allowing churches to be reopened(see the pictures).Later, the Germans misteated them,so they turned against them. Anyone know if this is true? I’ll gladly stand corrected if I’m wrong.
True, some Russians welcomed the German army in 1941, but that ended when the SS was left in charge. Their goal was to “colonize” Russia, meaning to exterminate slavic people and enslave survivors (or cage them in “reserves”).
Not to mention that the Soviets were using burnt earth tactics has they withdrew so that the Germans would not gain anything worthwhile. Those areas were in a very poor state after the fighting.
Germans burned farm houses with the people inside. Some people have to thank that the Soviets didn’t behave in the same way like the Nazis.