Comments on: American Views Of Soviet Russia http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/ Daily selected things from Russia and ex USSR countries. Published In English. Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:38:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 By: er http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-9593920 Sat, 05 Jan 2013 02:39:25 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-9593920 american propagandist in USSR

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By: Mke Talino http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-9582559 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:32:17 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-9582559 All those comments like “PROHIBITED” come from, excuse me, an idiot.

Take a picture of some people waiting for the train peacefully, add a caption like “starving peasants robbed by the evil Stalin are waiting for e train to evacuate to safety” — and keep telling there’s no propaganda in the West.

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By: Mke Talino http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-9582557 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:28:55 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-9582557 Communism never aimed at destroying culture, and religion has nothing to do with it.

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By: FMH http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-5214909 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:04:44 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-5214909 Can happen in London, though.

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By: truecristian http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4818671 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:47:42 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4818671 Dear Godmocking Maggot;Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and being sodomized by strangers in public toilets to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we’re right.

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By: Archy Bunka http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4780004 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:34:41 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4780004 Thank you BAB.

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By: Archy Bunka http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4779984 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:32:44 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4779984 MW, I heard minute fraction of reality from a man who was born before 1917, and who still lives today.
The fact is, when Gorbachev allowed freedom of speech, every family in Russia had a horror story to tell. People who disappeared in the night with no explanation. I must admit you frustrate me MW, I feel that way because you seem to have closed your eyes to the reality of the situation in 1917. No country, none, could have bounced back from the horror of those years, in so short a time. Socialists apologists have been throwing Lenin out there as a symbol of what could have been, but never was. I apologize if I,ve been rude. If we sat down and had a few beers together we could probably work it out…

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By: testicules http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4774456 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:46:08 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4774456 The idea looks attractive to some on paper. However, it is only successful on Star Trek episodes. Human nature is too competitive, creative, energetic, and destructive to conform to such a plan.

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By: historian http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4771656 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 08:47:59 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4771656 Dead from 5 year plan? There was only one plan? Tell me more haha…

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By: Dana http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4771289 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 08:18:30 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4771289 wow, 2,vs how many in the soviet union? and how many millions dead from the “5 year plan?” there’s no comparison. wake up

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By: marxistworker http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4769142 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:38:39 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4769142 I didn’t mean to upset you, but I believe things are more nuanced than what we think we know about history. I never denied mistakes and injustices but the fact that the “idea” was good remains good. The U.S. early values in the Declaration and Constitution were good and remain good, yet look at the history. I’m not defending everything, I’m defending the idea. The early Soviet Union had a lot more good than bad. If the Sov. Union collapsed, I want to know why, not judge from thousands of miles away. If you were there you only saw or heard a minute fraction of reality. If I went there, same thing. It takes a lot of study from a lot of sources to understand things but once again, it will only be a fraction of reality. So my point is, I’m just trying to learn a little, not convert or insult anyone.

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By: TrainPic http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4767816 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:43:50 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4767816 I’m glad you asked. Here is a link to two incidents in the US. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BATN/message/45933

I was personally prohibited from photographing a security checkpoint at the entrance to a Washington DC museum.

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By: testicules http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4765103 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:38:44 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4765103 only if he didn’t kill them for being happy

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By: testicules http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4765065 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:36:30 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4765065 They should be making sandwiches

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By: testicules http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4765057 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:35:59 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4765057 Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that religion brought culture and morals to the serf and that the Czar kept them ignorant? He was the supreme leader after all. The Church did answer to him.

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By: testicules http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4765043 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:33:58 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4765043 Good counter. I was almost going to agree with MW then you reversed it.

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By: bigaussieboris http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4762612 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:34:35 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4762612 ARCHY you are so right , my family was from yugoslavia it was paridise compared CCCP. MATE some of these wankers don,t want the truth they they actually prefer lies.

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By: Archy Bunka http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4760211 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 07:21:26 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4760211 I can’t take you anymore. In spite of MOUNTAINS of evidence to the contrary,
in spite of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, you maintain this lie. It is ingrained in you. You, who have never even been to Russia. Did they walk home from Siberia at night? The USSR collapsed because it couldn’t sustain itself under the weight of its total BULLS**T. And that, is a fact, it is gone.

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By: Archy Bunka http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4760165 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 07:15:26 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4760165 Please. When was the last time someone arrested you for taking a picture of a train, give me a break.

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By: marxistworker http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4758995 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:45:08 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4758995 Completely, totally different than Talibanic Islam; Religion kept the peasants ignorant and illiterate under the Tsar. The Communists brought education, medicine (not religious “healing” voodoo), and modernization. Yes, they wanted to destroy a culture that harmed instead of helped.

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By: marxistworker http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4758765 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:13:23 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4758765 The funny thing is, the U.S. today is sliding into a paranoid state where ID is needed and surveillance is everywhere. J.St. would be proud.

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By: Akskl http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4758706 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 02:48:17 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4758706 About half of Kazakhs (2 millions or even more) starved to death in 1932-1933 after forced collectivization. About 1 million Kazakhs starved to death in 1921. Many thousands were killed in the 1916 uprising.

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By: marxistworker http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4758678 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 02:44:35 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4758678 The Justice Commissariat ceased to handle penal institutions in 1934, when all prisoners and prisons were put under NKVD authority. Realistically, then, the GULAG system (of slave labor and terror) only lasted from 1934-1954. In the 1920s only political prisoners were sent to the harsh camps of the N. Soviet Union or the region of Siberia. Even at that, rehabilitation was the norm in all camps in the 20s. A liberal policy was employed- prisoners could leave the camps to work before returning at night. Of course, this ended after Stalin’s rise in 1928.

I had to laugh about the Lenin book comment. The trouble with reading history books by Americans is you have to read 10 bad ones before you find one that is actually objective and fair. “And that’s the way it is.”

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By: Musa http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4758672 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 02:42:36 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4758672 A few of them look pregnant too. :(

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By: Musa http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4758624 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 02:39:06 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4758624 I have a hard time believing all those people are standing there in the freezing cold and just watching the ice floating on the river. I like the old pictures anyway. :)

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By: Otis R. Needleman http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4757249 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:47:01 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4757249 Abbe indirectly references the famine in the Ukraine, through the comments about people waiting for a train. Great pictures…makes you wonder how many of those people survived the purges and the war.

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By: Funkdat http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4757164 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:10:26 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4757164 The
Government should work for the people and not control them.

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By: Tippi-Simo http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4756515 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:54:01 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4756515 Those were the times.

I bet Russians were pretty happy during Stalin´s regime.

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By: Archy Bunka http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4756528 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:37:49 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4756528 MW, read please, the definition of GULAG:

Gulag, system of forced-labor prison camps in the USSR, from the Russian acronym [GULag] for the Main Directorate of Corrective Labor Camps, a department of the Soviet secret police (originally the Cheka; subsequently the GPU, OGPU, NKVD, MVD, and finally the KGB). The Gulag was first established under Vladimir Lenin during the early Bolshevik years (c.1920). The vast penal network, which ultimately included 476 camp complexes, functioned throughout Russia, many in the wastes of Siberia and the Soviet Far East. The system reached its peak after 1928 under Joseph Stalin, who used it to maintain the Soviet state by keeping its populace in a state of terror. Gulag deaths of both political prisoners and common criminals from overwork, starvation, and other forms of maltreatment are estimated to have been in the millions during Stalin’s years in power.

I am sorry, I don’t know what book you read about Lenin, if it came out of the USSR, it’s not worth the paper it’s printed on.

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By: Ivanko http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4756175 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:16:28 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4756175 Barefoot women working at the railroad…?

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By: Dang http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4756314 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:12:45 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4756314 Compared to western Europeans and Americans Soviet citizens were poor but still lived better than the vast majority of the world.

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By: testicules http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4756064 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:43:38 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4756064 It is a shame that like Talibanic Islam, Communism (in Russia and other places) found it neccessary to destroy the culture and religionous icons that ran counter to it’s beliefs.

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By: historian http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4754325 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:40:50 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4754325 Not for real the death rate was between 1950-1980 lower then now. And also the people were happier.

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By: CZenda http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4754159 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:06:57 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4754159 Bleak. And they only let him see the polished facade… ugh.

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By: Matt http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4754059 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:51:06 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4754059 Very Interesting. I love seeing old pictures like this.

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By: Archy Bunka http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4753873 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:23:41 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4753873 A. Bunka here. For all the young USSR’s paranoia, none of it saved it from the German onslaught of 1941. Mr. Abbe was a professional photojournalist who reported and commented on what he saw with no political subterfuge. Note his comments on the hospital.

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By: Viktor99 http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/01/american-views-of-soviet-russia/#comment-4752822 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:05:49 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=62095#comment-4752822 A wonderful collection of photographs!

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