Comments on: Hunger in Soviet Russia http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/ Daily selected things from Russia and ex USSR countries. Published In English. Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:08:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 By: SovMarxist1924 http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1488190 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 02:09:17 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1488190 To elaborate: Premier Rykov, Kalinin, Bukharin, and even Stalin’s wife Nadya were concerned about Stalin’s policies but Stalin had the muscle (but no brains) of Molotov, Kaganovich, Voroshilov, and other parasites who succeeded in silencing or destroying the real communists of this era.

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By: SovMarxist1924 http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1488152 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:51:46 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1488152 The famine was a result of the Civil War (1918-1922); The Soviet system of the 20s was productive; fair; working.. Stalin abandoned Marxism for a twisted authoritarian system (Stalinism) and was LARGELY responsible for the Ukrainian famine of 1932-33.

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By: alibi http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1486036 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 07:30:24 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1486036 That’s easy – because they didn’t get to power there. They had power in Russia though and you know what happened, same in Ukraine. Just check the names.

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By: american http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1485474 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:49:07 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1485474 oh, by the way….youre welcome, russia.

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By: Rolling Stone http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1478561 Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:47:47 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1478561 why didn’t then mighty jews organize fame in Germany after WWII? The point is that jews interests coincided with those of the Russian empire in the beginning of the 20th century, they were leading bolsheviks, but did it well within the imperialist line.

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By: Pawel http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1478177 Tue, 03 Aug 2010 06:27:11 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1478177 OMG Russians are so poor, starvation and hungers are unheard of in the west and poor people are fat and obese here cause we have too much luxury food. :(

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By: Boritz http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1477773 Tue, 03 Aug 2010 03:14:05 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1477773 No, Russia achieved second place. America next to last!

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By: alibi http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1477146 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:10:08 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1477146 CZenda: “I am giving up this discussion. There is no point in arguing with a 12-yrs old Putinjunge”

No problema comrade. That’s a smart move. I’m with you on that one – don’t u ever talk to anybody without a presence of a lawyer. Very smart man. Just one question though – what’s the connection between Lenin’s betrayal of the Russian allies in the WWI and the Czech’s Legion avoiding a participation in a fight for the Czech independency. But then again – don’t answer without a lawyer’s approval.
Cheers comrade.

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By: CZenda http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1476690 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:45:20 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1476690 Did you ever hear of Brest-Litovsk peace where Comrade Lenin broke all treaties Russia had with the Allies, signed a separate peace with Germany, thus released enormous amounts of people and materiel Germany and Austria used in their spring 1918 offensive in France and Italy?
Do not think so.
The move of the Legion to Vladivostok was a direct consequence of Comrade Lenin´s betrayal of the efforts of the Allies, because USSR (RSFSR, whatever they called the bloody state then) quit fighting the Axis.
I am giving up this discussion. There is no point in arguing with a 12-yrs old Putinjunge.

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By: alibi http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1476582 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:45:06 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1476582 If you check the names of folks who were in charge in Ukraine back then you’ll find out that they were Jews. Sorry pal but they just paid back for your Ukrainian hospitality that you gave the Jews throughout your mutual friendship. Don’t blame the Russians for that.

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By: alibi http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1476510 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:28:31 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1476510 The Czech Legion – jeez that’s a cool name for a bunch of Czechs who were so desperate to fight for their country so they decided to speed it all up and run to the battlefield in the Central Europe from Russia through Siberia and the Far east coast. That’s what I call a determination. Being the only organised military force in Russia at that time when the Russians got busy fighting each other in the civil war all 7 divisions of the Czech Legionnaires fully equipped and armed instead of moving West to join their comrades fighting for their motherland moved East to Vladivostok. Imagine that? There was no Red army back then just packs of thugs roaming around looking for a snatch there was practically no one to oppose the Legion. The Czechs could have captured Moscow if they wanted back then or even better – could’ve gone and fight for their loved motherland against the Austrians. But no – they had a better idea – go to Vladivostok kill some people on the way and at the end make a del with the Reds and sell them Admiral Kolchak the guy they fought with together against the Reds. That’s the spirit. No wonder when the Legion got back to Europe the fight for their motherland was over, done by somebody else as usual.

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By: Cracker http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1476377 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:38:26 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1476377 $20 million in 1922 is worth $260 million in 2010

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By: Cracker http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1476371 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:37:11 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1476371 America is one of the most productive countries on Earth. Most of us work 40 to 60 hours a week and get 1 to 2 weeks vacation a year. If you compare that to France which has a 20 to 30 hour work week and 1 to 2 months of vacation, the average American works twice as much as the average Frenchman.

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By: Cracker http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1476343 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:29:38 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1476343 If Argentina were to help people out the same way the USA does, I am sure the bags of food would say “Argentina”. We wish to help people out, but we also want to be remembered for doing so.

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By: moscowguy http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1476284 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:03:05 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1476284 i dont think that US did that mainly because the wanted to help… what they did is nothing more than subsidizing the US economy by buying this stuff from their own producton and sending it to Russia… otherwise the price for this stuff would have been freakin low or the producers would not haven been possible to sell it.

i have been to both country, i have many friends in both countries and i like both of you…

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By: kbr http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1475867 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:52:11 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1475867 Have you ever been to the USA? And if so, did you speak with Americans, did life with them? Or are you getting your information from your imagination?

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By: Soendoro Soetanto http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1475636 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:45:28 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1475636 Hasn’t Russia changed so much economically?

Soendoro Soetanto

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By: perristalsis http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1475076 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:09:27 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1475076 As you point out, it would be nice to offer country of origin label- neutral food items, but reality says black marketeers, government corruption, and possible recall needs dictate such labeling. If propaganda were the purpose, you’d see something like: “A gift from the American people to our friends, the starving Russian peasant”.

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By: Rolling Stone http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1475063 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:06:37 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1475063 What a Kremlin propaganda is this? Bunch of homeless children are called starving? What a fake! In Ukraine at that time millions of people were dying from the artificial fame, created to destroy the freedom-loving local peasantry, and the food was taken by force to Russia to feed bolsheviks. And not any help was getting to these region – obviously because russians wanted as many people to die as possible. Now Putin claims that hunger was all over the Soviet empire and Russia is not to blame, but that’s a lie, the scale is uncomparable, and this post is well within Russian lies about “starving children” elsewhere. Russia is responsible for genocide in Ukraine!

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By: CZenda http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1474784 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 08:20:46 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1474784 You got it all wrong, Comrade. Try googling “Czech Legion”.

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By: DouglasUrantia http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1474212 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:52:02 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1474212 Lets try to get along and everyone sit down to dinner.
Thank God for what we have, even if it be little.

Amen.

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By: big mike http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1474167 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:39:02 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1474167 Stalin starves how many people in Russia and the Ukraine. And a country try’s to help and they are the villain? Shame shame the World shakes it’s head at you Russia :(

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By: Byron76 http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1473116 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:54:00 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1473116 I don’t undestand why there are supplies with “american” tag… some sort of propaganda or was the fear to avoid confusion of the origin of those bags, or the “american” tag makes food to get a better flavour???
Come on… help and charity hasn’t any tag… nor name…
Hugs from Argentina to all EnglishRussia crew!!!

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By: alibi http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1472828 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 18:58:57 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1472828 At least the Russians fought for their motherland as they always did unlike the Czechs. But then who can blame the Czechs for being the sheep they are they have always belonged to somebody so what’s the point in fighting it will be one master or another anyway.

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By: CZenda http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1472408 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:41:15 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1472408 Where did you get the figures? Is this what they teach you in grammar schools now, in the Putler´s Russia? Everybody (outside Russia, that is) knows that the military losses of Nazi Germany were disproportionately smaller than those of USSR. One of the famous Koba´s slaughterhouses were attempts to break the blockade of Leningrad, where waves of poorly equipped infantry were sent against well-entrenched Germans – again and again, until the Germans run out of ammo.

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By: Ivana Benderova http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1472088 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:03:15 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1472088 “No need to fight. Better we should look at ways to work together.”

Why? fighting is more fun AND more profitable!

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By: Grzegorz http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1470611 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:24:56 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1470611 oh, twenties – my mistake. Still caused by noone else but the Commies.

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By: RB http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1469766 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 02:00:38 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1469766 what is the relation between being a lazy pig and that makes us evil?
At least we can take some small comfort in the fact that now we can throw words at each other instead of heavy metals.

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By: Otis R. Needleman http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1469151 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:17:38 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1469151 Just what are you people fighting about? The ARA saved thousands of lives. Stalin took over in the mid-1920s. He presided over a man-made famine in the Ukraine due to collectivization. Didn’t have to happen. While I deeply respect the Russian people’s sacrifice during WWII, Stalin made things a whole lot worse. To be sure, most of the Lend-Lease materials got to Russia after the Nazis had been pushed back from Moscow, but we certainly supplied plenty to the USSR. Re today’s Russia, keep in mind the population is shrinking and the economy is basically an extractive economy. What happens when everything is extracted? And this year’s Russian wheat crop doesn’t look good due to abnormally hot weather.

No need to fight. Better we should look at ways to work together.

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By: Kirov (REAL) http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1469117 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:07:39 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1469117 yes, ara were of great help, BUT they were NOT THE ONLY ONES. many groups from Europe helped the civilians during the civil war.

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By: Kirov http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1468826 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:33:16 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1468826 Fake Kirov, again you prove you have the brains of a shoe. Kulaks were an invention of the propaganda machine. There never existed such a thing. It was a deliberate attempt to submit weaken and submit the peoples.

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By: perristalsis http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1468252 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:50:20 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1468252 The ARA opened kitchens in Petrograd and Moscow by September 1921, serving tens of thousands of children. The ARA spread into smaller cities and rural areas over the next several months, but in several places faced opposition from local village leaders and Communist Party officials. Most rural local committees consisted of a teacher and two or three other members who would serve the food to the children from the local schools. This fed the children, paid and fed the teacher, and continued some measure of education. In addition to feeding programs, the ARA employed thousands of starving and unemployed Russians to unload, transport, and distribute food to the most famine-stricken areas. The ARA also established a medical division that furnished medical supplies for hospitals, provided treatments to tens of thousands of people, and conducted sanitation inspections. It was estimated that the ARA provided about eight million vaccinations between 1921 and 1923.

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By: Orignal Kirov http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1468162 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:32:54 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1468162 hey listen up, Soviets lost 6,8 million KIA vs Axis 4,2 million KIA. Both sides lost about equal numbers of dead, wounded and captured.

Difference is though, that the heartless nazi scum saw Russian POW’s as dirt, and thus 3,6 million Soviet POW’s died in Nazi concentration camps

Then we have 10+ million civilians who died in German-occupied Soviet Union (they died mostly due to “Der General-plan Ost”).

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By: YJ http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1467880 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:41:18 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1467880 The new world order begins back then.

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By: cockatrice http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1467640 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:58:02 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1467640 @Marb

Funny thing there, wasn’t Herbert Hoover pre-WWII. As I remember, he left office in 1933 and WWII didn’t start until 1939, unless you’re in some Steam-Punk side universe…

So in some weird retroactive logic, you’ve just applied something that happened almost two decades later to what was going on in the early 1920’s…

I know Americans are not known for their extra-US history, but we at least are taught about this stuff around WWI and WWII…

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By: Kirov http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1467491 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:35:44 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1467491 Somehow you also forgot to mention that if it was not for the American support early in the war [trucks, planes] Stalin wouldn’t even have had the option to fight back.

He let his armies be slaughtered by the fascists because he couldn’t believe Hitler would turn against him, so he did nothing at first. Many many thousands of good Russian soldiers died because of him. He is basterd, and still many Russians think he’s the greatest [after Putin] Russian ever. Russia deserves the leaders it has, I think.

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By: Boris Huiwitz Gudunov http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1467475 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:31:46 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1467475 If Russians wouldn’t be so lazy, greedy and egoistic they would be able to support themselves.

To start with, elect a responsible government.

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By: Spongebobtotherescue http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1467406 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:03:48 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1467406 Somehow you forgot to mention that Russians are perverse drunks who can’t quite function and have state sponsored abortions. Hmm I can never see America being like that. People might be fat in America but there are many hard working souls.

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By: Lithuanian http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1467267 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:27:48 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1467267 America win russia fail…

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By: George Johnson http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1467167 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:04:53 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1467167 America still do stuff like this, but for some reason, we’re the world most evil country. I think most of it is wealth envy. (well, now it’s been exposed as credit/debt envy….)

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By: DOBERMAN http://englishrussia.com/2010/07/31/hunger-in-soviet-russia/#comment-1467159 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:01:46 +0000 http://englishrussia.com/?p=16426#comment-1467159 First

I found this kinda sad:

“it was hard to convince the lawmakers that they had to
help the starving, not Bolsheviks.”

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