68 Human Spite And Indifference Devoted

Human Spite And Indifference Devoted

Posted on May 13, 2010 by team


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An elderly woman is begging for change at the cafe "Krasny Mak" in the center of Taganrog.  She refused to leave when was asked to.

They began to use more weighty arguments ... Nobody interceded ... including the photographer ...


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68 Responses to “Human Spite And Indifference Devoted”

  1. Nomad says:

    First!!!

  2. rus says:

    screenplay

  3. Lola says:

    Disgustingly heartless!!
    I spent ~ a year in Russia – they are quite paradoxical people: they try to convince you they are quite good-hearted (most of them believe it themselves!!), but gestures like this one are very common, everyday facts. They have little respect for poorer, less fortunate people. You add that to the fact that they are by nature very proud individuals – rather on the fringe of arrogance – and you get quite an interesting mixture …
    I still can’t get over all the smart educated people who shed tears out of patriotism and love for their peoples, while trying to convince us foreigners that the world and history are so unfair, making such a great power like Russia live such times, when nobody respects them …
    Bullshacks – all their power came from conquer and oppression on all neighboring countries.
    I haven’t yet met a person from any of the neighboring countries that does not hate and despise this country and all it has meant for them for centuries.
    I find this picture very illustrative of how most of them live according to the most ruthless, law of the jungle principles. If they do this to one of their own …
    I feel for all the really good and honest people there. I know it’s very hard for them to leave this country – and it’s not a solution on a grand scale anyway – Russians have quite a hard time abroad, because they do love their homeland.

    • John Ivan says:

      Lets play a game: write down name of desired country on empty line!

      Disgustingly heartless!!
      I spent ~ a year in __________ – they are quite paradoxical people: they try to convince you they are quite good-hearted (most of them believe it themselves!!), but gestures like this one are very common, everyday facts. They have little respect for poorer, less fortunate people. You add that to the fact that they are by nature very proud individuals – rather on the fringe of arrogance – and you get quite an interesting mixture …
      I still can’t get over all the smart educated people who shed tears out of patriotism and love for their peoples, while trying to convince us foreigners that the world and history are so unfair, making such a great power like _____________ live such times, when nobody respects them …
      Bullshacks – all their power came from conquer and oppression on all neighboring countries.
      I haven’t yet met a person from any of the neighboring countries that does not hate and despise this country and all it has meant for them for centuries.
      I find this picture very illustrative of how most of them live according to the most ruthless, law of the jungle principles. If they do this to one of their own …
      I feel for all the really good and honest people there. I know it’s very hard for them to leave this country – and it’s not a solution on a grand scale anyway – __________ have quite a hard time abroad, because they do love their homeland.

      Texas ? (for some reason, this came to my mind first, lol )
      United States of America?
      Any neighbor country of place you live?

      • Lola says:

        Ivan,
        The fact that Russia is not the only country living on whatever memories they have from their glorified warmongering, imperialistic times they are going back to these days, does not mean it’s acceptable.
        I find your attempt at defending your homeland laudable, but it only proves that Russians love their country. (Equally worthy of consideration if you are not Russian yourself and this is an attempt at showing how open-minded you can be. ) I never denied Russia was a beautiful, interesting country or that there are good, honest people among the Russians. You on the other hand cannot deny that it is also plagued with selfish, arrogant, heartless people who wouldn’t mind knocking over anybody standing in their way to power, wealth and especially prestige among their peers.
        Oh, and try and play your little game using the names of any of the Russia’s neighboring countries … On second thought, that won’t help you in any way to understand my point, because another “interesting” feature of the Russians I met is that they still fantasize about a species of parallel history they had invented for themselves and they still teach in schools – a fantasy according to which every time one of the neighboring countries managed to get back a patch of territory from under the Russian foot, they were “stealing” it from mother Russia.

        • manta says:

          I share your opinion, Lola.

        • John Ivan says:

          This website is devoted to building stereotypes and making up lies. It serves as political tool to pro-western thinkers.

          More than once pictures published here have been accompanied by story/text that has nothing to do with them and was made up by site owners, just to exaggerate and smear.

          More than once stories from Ukraine, Belorussia and other countries have been published here, only showing ignorance of site owners and visitors.

          For all we know, story here might be completely inaccurate. It is fairly easy to manipulate picture to serve emotional and political agenda of the one writing it.
          This website is well known for lying and making up stories. That is why I only look at nice pictures and ignore text as utter lie, and occasionally comment people that are to unable to realize it.

          • NotAJudge says:

            Your response is funny to me, about stereotypes and lies and people with a pro-western agenda.

            I come from a Western nation, I have lived in such nations all my life.

            And as I have learned more about Russia and the Russian people, I have also learned to loathe the Western people especially the ‘anglo saxon’ people!

            Yes! Learning about the Russian people and culture has made me despise my own race and culture!!

          • Sir, most Americans don’t know this site even exists. I like it, it is interesting. In the grand scheme of things it is not important. So this idea you have, even if true, that the owners of this site are behind some kind of anti-Russian compaign, don’t fret, they are not succeeding. I really don’t see any reason to put Russia down on a daily basis. We really aren’t competing with her anymore. Russia has so much in great culture, science, geography. I was in the Soviet Union and found Moscowvites generally nice people. However, it is this historic self delusion that Lola refers too that is truely dangerous. If Russian people continue to allow themselves to be deceived, only they themselves will suffer.

            • djkrugger says:

              Russians are this…Americans are that…i wish i would know a single country where there’s no nasty people, luckily most of earth’s population is composed of good people with a heart, i’ve in many places and everywhere you find good hearted people, don’t let a coward like the lady in the picture give a image for a whole country. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

        • maxD says:

          Poor people are treated with disgust – they probably deserve their poverty, is the idea.

          Another interesting subject: adoption of Russian children in the US. Some of these kids were killed and this was used by Russian media to paint a very black picture of the US and its citizens in general.

          Overlooking the fact that, according to Russian ‘ombudsman’ Pavel Astakhov the number of adopted children killed by their Russian foster parents, was baffling: about 1,220 children adopted by Russian parents died between 1993 and 2008, according to data compiled by the children ombudsmen’s office.
          Plus, over 1 million children in Russia are considered ‘orphans': left by their parents mostly.

          themoscowtimes.com/news/article/adoption-flap-not-expected-to-last-long/403850.html

          And if you adopt a child in Russia you will also be treated with contempt: the general idea is that one only adopts a child for the money.

          Heartless and cold, this judgment.

          • polak says:

            1220 children… 15 were killed in the US in the same time period, on a total of 60.000 adopted.

            Still 15 too many, but the Russians definately have no right to judge the Americans.

        • rob says:

          wow,wow,wow – you in USA genocided first nations to live on their territory now and had slaves just 4 generations ago (forcefuly deportating millions for that perpose from Africa and starving them for death in the process)- and now you are lecturing to Russians about morality, hypocrite…

      • Cracker says:

        I want to make MUCH BOOM BOOM with the heartless water-throwing blonde lady!

    • Joe Ravioli says:

      I find it a little hilarious that some of my fellow Westerners are shaking their heads at this one.

      Homeless people & beggars are run off from American storefronts every day, in every city. There’s a slim chance that an “assault” charge might come from the water attack, and that is very unlikely. Otherwise, there is no cultural difference.

      No business owner in the world wants beggars hanging out in front of their shop.

      I feel sorry for the old lady, sorry for the business owner, and yes, the water-thrower looks fairly hot.

    • rob says:

      lola do you know that you are a racist? yes, yes – one of juridical definitions of racism is generalising actions of some representatives of particular ethnic group on the whole ethnic group,,,so congratulate yourselve – you are a racist…

  4. scumbags says:

    russian people are disgusting indeed. i know some in london – all living on benefits. hopefully cameron will kick ‘em out fast

  5. QueCosas says:

    It’s harder to be kind to less fortunate people because we have the moral loophole of thinking that they are responsible for their own situation.

    So many people I know are unable to be charitable with a homeless person yet they donate to poor countries, child sponsors, animal groups, etc. Being kind to poor people in Africa is comfortable because we don’t have to live with them on our doorstep. We can feel good without having to put up with them.

    Some people even become agressive with them – anger is usually a manifestation of frustration… are we frustrated because they remind us that our super capitalist consumer society might not be ideal?

  6. perristalsis says:

    In the U.S.:
    Throwing water on someone can be considered an assault and battery in both criminal and civil cases. In either case a person has to prove they were assaulted (the above photos will do nicely). Remember that legally the harm does not have to be intended for the victim. Merely doing an intentional act is enough to commit a battery. It could be intended for a particular person or the person victimized could be totally random.

    If I was the employee above, I’d tell the boss “screw you, she was a member of a sniper brigade in the Patriotic war and still has her rifle at home- you throw the water”

  7. Ernestas says:

    I live in Lithuania and I hate russians, couse they always start a fight local club. They don’t what is the difrence between “Only Papper” and “Only Plastic” and so on, and so on.

    Thats why peaple hate them…

    And I hate when peaple think that in Lithuania peaple speak in russian – WE SPEAK IN LITHUANIAN(oldest language in europe).

    America not better afterall.

    Sorry for my bad english. Peace.

    • strannik says:

      LITHUANIAN is oldest language in europe!?
      kad slypi

      Bro, stop hating anyone and get the life!

      sustabdyti nekenčia ir džiaugtis gyvenimu

      • Silvija says:

        Why actually, yes, Lithuanian IS the oldest indoeuropean language who has preserved 60% of Sanscrit. And, to be honest, Ernestas is right, A LOT of Lithuanians hate russians (not that I’m one of them). I don’t have anything against russians, but what I don’t like about people (from ANY foreign country) who live and work in Lithuania (or other countries) for years and doesn’t speak a word in Lithuanian (or a language of any other country they live in). In my opinion they are showing the maximum possible disrespect.
        And as for the picture – it almost made my cry.

        • strannik says:

          whats the point to hate russians now?
          the independence has been got and the ”war” is over
          and its hard to beleive that every russian in your country dont speak lithuanian
          is that a problem that russian speaks lithuanian a little
          and lithuanian speaks russian a little, still theyve got the opportunity to understand each other

          • Silvija says:

            I don’t really know the reasons why lithuanians hate russians… Probably it’s because of the past: parents hate russians because of the occupations and stuff, and they teach their kids – the new generation – to do so too and so it goes. I think “The Eastern World” has to learn to forget the past and look forward to the future.
            If the foreigners show some respect to my country it’s totally ok for me and I’ll definitely show respect to them too.

  8. MarkLenders says:

    Congrat… EnglishRussia.com is now banned in Tagarong. (if I can find a map that shows me where the fuk is Tagarong)

  9. Anton says:

    I am Russian, and i love my country, more i am from Taganrog, all right. This pictures are mind-blowing. But… Your trouble arabs, not Russians. I wish cameron strength. Sorry for my English.

  10. Anton says:

    Lithuania is not better then Russia and do not lie to yourself and other. Thanks my teacher for my english.

  11. Gena says:

    “still fantasize about a species of parallel history they had invented for themselves and they still teach in schools – a fantasy according to which every time one of the neighboring countries managed to get back a patch of territory from under the Russian foot, they were “stealing” it from mother Russia.”

    Lola what are you smoking?

    • Gena. Lola is right. My friend is from former USSR. Did he learn in college that Stalin nearly lost WW2 in a month? Did he learn that Soviet Union murdered Polish freedom fighters because Stalin knew he could not control them? Did he learn the facts of the cuban missile crisis? On this site is clear evidence of the constant rewriting of Soviet history with Trotsky and Kirov and others who fell from favor, removed from historic photos. How about the resettlement of: Abkhazians (your good friends), or Chechians? Or Jews? To the remotest part of the country.
      No, he learned none of it.

  12. Valiant says:

    “still fantasize about a species of parallel history they had invented for themselves and they still teach in schools – a fantasy according to which every time one of the neighboring countries managed to get back a patch of territory from under the Russian foot, they were “stealing” it from mother Russia.”

    Wonderful analysis!

    Lola you should be working for a think tank!

    Saludos

    Valiant

  13. BearCreekMan says:

    Simple assault and battery.

  14. Kent_Diego says:

    When I see someone sleeping by my walkway I usually use water hose on them. Many businesses in San Diego have automatic sprinkler system on roof that waters sidewalk a night to discourage people sleeping.

  15. curt1956 says:

    Why do so many people feel that knocking down someone else makes them less than you.
    All involved in this event should feel ashamed. Even the photographer noted that he did nothing. This is a HUMAN response to crowding, not restricted to Russia, or the US, or England. Recently, it happened in NYC where a stabbing victim bled to death on the sidewalk while people walked by.

  16. curt1956 says:

    Why do so many people feel that knocking down someone else makes you better than them.
    All involved in this event should feel ashamed. Even the photographer noted that he did nothing. This is a HUMAN response to crowding, not restricted to Russia, or the US, or England. Recently, it happened in NYC where a stabbing victim bled to death on the sidewalk while people walked by.

    • Fred says:

      That was even worse, because the homeless man in NYC had been stabbed when he stopped someone from being robbed.

  17. Salmaran says:

    It’s a world problem. I agree with commentary of curt1956.

  18. Modern society can make people cold. What being cruel to an old lady has to do with international politics I don’t know. Give her a ruble and send her on her way.

  19. SSSR says:

    Congrats,englishrussia.com is now banned on planet Earth.Soon it will also be banned on Mars.

  20. are you kidding says:

    The USSR had a enemy from within called FREEDOM and for all of its power glory only lasted 70 years and could not sustain its power over Russians and non Russians with oppression and murder and still continue be a super power productive enough to keep up with the technological advancement and standard of living that capitalism and a free market produced in the west and appears to be on the path to redemption for its crimes against humanity that its former Communist government perpetrated .

  21. strannik says:

    I think that everybody here should stop blaming this low-hearted woman and answer a simple question what will he do in the same situation. The most part of people will pass by saying no word because they think that its not their buisness, no matter where it happens Moscow or NY

  22. shmalex says:

    awfull :((((((
    and the girl with bottle also wears St. George ribbon

    i can’t belive this was happening
    it can’t be!!(((

  23. Natasha says:

    Is it staged? With actors?

  24. RjFlorida says:

    I feel so ashamed, I am such a dog. This horrible scene is being played out and all I can think about is how hot the waitress looks and how I would like to do her.

    You can flame me now.

  25. brbrbr says:

    d-post. sry

  26. CZenda says:

    It would be interesting to know where are the borders of the private property the “brave” waitress protects with such vengeance. Maybe the old lady (who does not strike me like a bum, rather a poor pensioner) is sitting outside the limits, which may be defined by the door, in which case I expect a hefty check from the producers of another boring courtroom thriller (starring Sandra Bullock) for suggesting the idea :-D

  27. aidabelle says:

    This is not about foreign affairs or politics. It’s about society and the culture of money. Where a persons worth and respect is measured in dollars, and not by any virtue.
    If instead that woman was dressed in furs and diamonds she would be serving her the water.

    This waitress is ignorant and shallow, if karma has its way one day that waitress will be the old lady.

  28. Same Anywhere says:

    This can take place anywhere. Many times these destitute people are mentally ill and belong in an institution. A business does not want them in their doorway bothering customers. The old woman can sit in many public places to beg, but she chooses to go where she is not wanted. I would guess that this is not the first time this business has had to drive her from their doorway, and it will not be the last.

  29. Lawl says:

    WTF is your people problem.. Its a private business, im sure there is a plenty of space to sit, so… water sounds like a pretty good idea…
    Feel free to start hating

  30. SSSR says:

    What is APXbI3 translated in English?I have a water bottle with that name on it and a bottle with MEPKyPUU on it.

    • dilbert says:

      That’s bull-c.r.a.p.
      Are you really willing to advocate this ugly deed is the result of Russians learning evolution in school? :D
      Communism does not work on “survival of the fittest”. It actually offers social protection and jobs-for-everybody, all paid by the state even at the expense of private initiative in business. So during the real communist years that old lady would not be begging on the streets – she would probably still have her shop-assistant or math-teacher job. And at this age she would get a modest pension, but she would be able to afford a decent living …
      The church only teaches well-off people to pity the others … and it teaches the others to wait for the proverbial bone to fall from the rich-man’s table.
      Furthermore the younger woman is wearing a ribbon-bow on that unfashionable work-coat, and if I am not wrong that’s a St George ribbon. So we are safe to assume she is either religious or cares enough about religious “morals” to wear the ribbon. And she still sprinkles the old lady with water at a time of the year when it’s probably chilly enough for her to catch a bad cold (especially considering her age).
      So your argument does not hold any water.
      And by the way: even a superficial look on the state of affairs in Russia these last 15-20 years will show a regrettable revival of the religious feeling among people of all walks of life and ages. I know some just do it out of demagogy, but there are still too many who have turned to the Church in their hour of need, as I said before: either waiting for a bone or for a miracle. And this only keeps the majority of the people under a in a prostrate position for ever. And it keeps the Church in a powerful position, wielding their same old superstitions and prejudices.

    • dilbert says:

      oops, sorry SSSR, my reply below was meant for iknow.

  31. iknow says:

    An explanation: Many older russians were alive during the communist years. A communist government generally does not allow religion, rather supports evolution esp. darwinism. using this theory of evolution, communist leaders believed that god cannot exist in a communist country, since there should be no power higher than communism. This mentality actually suggests “survival of the fittest”, therefore if someone is weaker than you then they deserve it and you are better. If there was religion, which generally is attempting to evoke a sense of self-sacrifice, humanity, and kindness to onesself, then we would see less of this in any location. If you believe that humans are just animals who can think, and not different from animals and does not believe in a soul, then one could expect to behave in an animalistic way, survival of the fittest, natural selection.

    • dilbert says:

      iknow,
      That’s bull-c.r.a.p.
      Are you really willing to advocate this ugly deed is the result of Russians learning evolution in school? :D
      Communism does not work on “survival of the fittest”. It actually offers social protection and jobs-for-everybody, all paid by the state even at the expense of private initiative in business. So during the real communist years that old lady would not be begging on the streets – she would probably still have her shop-assistant or math-teacher job. And at this age she would get a modest pension, but she would be able to afford a decent living …
      The church only teaches well-off people to pity the others … and it teaches the others to wait for the proverbial bone to fall from the rich-man’s table.
      Furthermore the younger woman is wearing a ribbon-bow on that unfashionable work-coat, and if I am not wrong that’s a St George ribbon. So we are safe to assume she is either religious or cares enough about religious “morals” to wear the ribbon. And she still sprinkles the old lady with water at a time of the year when it’s probably chilly enough for her to catch a bad cold (especially considering her age).
      So your argument does not hold any water.
      And by the way: even a superficial look on the state of affairs in Russia these last 15-20 years will show a regrettable revival of the religious feeling among people of all walks of life and ages. I know some just do it out of demagogy, but there are still too many who have turned to the Church in their hour of need, as I said before: either waiting for a bone or for a miracle. And this only keeps the majority of the people under a in a prostrate position for ever. And it keeps the Church in a powerful position, wielding their same old superstitions and prejudices.

    • Frode S says:

      Which, if true, is a horrible misunderstanding of the Darwinian principles. Survival of the fittest isn’t survival of the strongest, but survival of the species/subjects best adapted to their environment, those who best “fit” their environment. What you are talking about has since been dubbed political Darwinism, and has been thoroughly discredited. And has absolutely nothing to do with Darwin and his theories of biology.

      Trying to blame this incident on the biological theories of reproduction and evolution, or lack of religion, is dubious at best and ignorant at worst.

  32. Fred says:

    Quite a scene. Fast forward 50 years, some ‘other’ lady begging for coins.

  33. Ivan says:

    I know a man who made the photos. He was interesting guy and good friend for all of us. Unfortunatly, he perished two days ago :(

    Here is his web site where you can see his other photos: http://yozhe4eg.livejournal.com/

  34. zain says:

    Made me cry how we human became so heartless, what if that young women is on the other after 50 somthing year what would she do

  35. Musa says:

    Looks like an awful situation. I need to know the whole story so then I could understand what was really going on in the pictures.

  36. Sam says:

    Very cruel, most people wouldn’t do that to a dog.

  37. Rinat says:

    They say this old woman is famous in Taganrog for cursing you if you do not give her the change. She was asked to leave right after another old man (visitor of this shop) had heart attack when she cursed him, wished him death, etc. That old woman got very bad reputation.

    The photo is great, making up story for it is wrong.

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