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    Mud Or Sludge, Tanks Don’t Trudge

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    Posted on April 2, 2010 by CJ

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    Maybe it is the first time you see real “alive” tanks and infantry combat vehicles instead of museum exhibits painted green. While operation they sound like a jet. In fact this is how a gas-turbine engine works. When they start shooting it seems you go deaf.


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    These are the pictures of the night tank playwar of Kantemirovskaya tank division under Naro-Fominsk town.

    T-80 tank — the main battle tank produced in the USSR. The first production tank with a single gas-turbine power plant. In the inventory of the USSR’s army since 1976.

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    In battery.

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    Bang!!!

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    The tank fires very very plunk.

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    During the playwar live ammunition was used.

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    Fires far away  - the targets are hidden somewhere at a distance.

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    And this is how a string of burst looks like at 15 seconds exposure.

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    Tracer firing and rebounding shot.

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    The tank weighs 46 tons. It’s two times heavier than a tram’s weight.

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    The gun’s firing rate is 12 shots a minute. Automatic recharge.

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    The tank can easily keep pace with an ordinary scooter – it speeds up to 80 km/h.

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    In the army’s inventory there are about 6500 pcs of T-80 in various modifications.

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    T-80 were used during the first assault of Grozny and “Jihad” operation.

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    In the battles the vehicle proved itself to be very protected. Sometimes it stands up to 18 kills of RPG.

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    In October, 4th, 1993 six T-80 tanks of Kantemirovskaya tank division moved to Kalininsky Bridge opposite the White House. 12 projectiles of 125 mm calibre were fired at the house: two armour-piercing and 10 high-explosive ones.

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    Crawler infantry combat vehicle – BMP-2.

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    Basic armory – automatic 30 mm gun 2A42 intended for destruction of troops,  soft-skinned vehicles and aerial low targets.

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    As opposed to T-80, BMP can swim (to 7 km/h) and convey landing force (up to 7 persons).

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    Rate of fire – 200 – 800 shots a minute.

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    Machine gun, sub-machine gun and sniper’s rifle fire – but it’s already another story…

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    32 Responses to “Mud Or Sludge, Tanks Don’t Trudge”

    1. photoshop says:
      April 2, 2010 at 7:23 am

      1st :)

      Reply
    2. gr@y says:
      April 2, 2010 at 8:20 am

      wowowowowow

      Reply
    3. TFPrince says:
      April 2, 2010 at 9:43 am

      Impressive photos!

      Reply
    4. Red Cardinal says:
      April 2, 2010 at 10:25 am

      Always thought the BMP series a very good aifv, particularly with its low profile. The T-80 is a reasonable tank as well, but not on a par now (even with upgrades) with equivalent Western mbts (eg Challenger, Leclerc, Abrams etc).

      Good pics!

      Reply
      • Alex Z says:
        April 3, 2010 at 1:26 am

        fail.
        With upgrades it’s not worse than T-90, that as we know as good as all modern tanks of the world.
        Even T-72 with last upgrades good as well, because T-90 just deep modernization of T-72.

        Reply
      • SS says:
        May 4, 2010 at 6:03 pm

        the best tank in the world is the german leopard 2

        Reply
    5. Cracker says:
      April 2, 2010 at 12:25 pm

      Fantastic Photography! Wow!

      Reply
    6. Unknown says:
      April 2, 2010 at 1:03 pm

      Cool stuff here! 8)

      Reply
    7. Testicules says:
      April 2, 2010 at 1:27 pm

      Kinda funny they would practice night ops with their lights on. Don’t they have FLIR in Russia? Nothing say “shoot me!” more than running around with the high beams on. LOL

      Reply
    8. CZenda says:
      April 2, 2010 at 1:40 pm

      Although I am sure these are useful in tribal wars, I wonder how they fare against more than 30 yrs old A-10.

      Reply
      • Alex Z says:
        April 3, 2010 at 1:23 am

        how about Abrams M1A2 versus Su-25?
        All tanks are useless before airplanes.

        Reply
        • Kirpykla Klaipeda says:
          May 22, 2010 at 2:09 am

          But tanks need be defended by anti-aircraft systems.

          Reply
      • cockatrice says:
        April 4, 2010 at 11:26 am

        When aircraft get involved, all tanks are sitting ducks. Doesn’t matter who made the plane or the opposing tank.

        Reply
    9. Maraudon says:
      April 2, 2010 at 2:11 pm

      great pics!

      Reply
    10. LameFox says:
      April 2, 2010 at 3:04 pm

      I think you go more than deaf – if you are close enough to the front of the tank when it fires the force can actually wound or kill you.

      Reply
    11. redcardinal says:
      April 2, 2010 at 3:18 pm

      >>Czenda

      “Although I am sure these are useful in tribal wars, I wonder how they fare against more than 30 yrs old A-10.”

      No better and no worse than any other vehicle against air attack. Frankly, all vehicles (military or otherwise) are sitting ducks againjst air attack without significant air defense. Doesn’t matter whether it’s a T-80 or an Abrams; it’s a dead dodo. Like all 1st world nations, Russia’s armed forces have plenty (read lots!) of air defense units in their armoured divisions.

      Thankfully, we’re not likely to see (fingers crossed) any conflict between 1st world powers. However, if there was to be a conflict involving significant ground fighting, CAS of ground forces and defense against CAS would likely be hugely important.

      The Allied Forces CAS in the first and second Gulf wars inflicted huge damage to the Iraqi armed forces. They were able to do this due to the weakness of the Iraqi air defense. The story would be different in a conflict fought against a nation with a strong air defense capabality.

      Btw, although T-80s are probably not considered to be on a par with the current generation of western mbts, they are by no means obsolete tanks.

      I digress!

      Reply
      • Masker says:
        April 3, 2010 at 7:07 am

        Don’t forget though that the terrain played it’s role in Iraq too, ie. favored airpower. In well-wooded areas this will look different.

        Reply
      • nitpicker says:
        April 5, 2010 at 6:49 am

        Actually Russia is a second world country

        Reply
    12. Amber says:
      April 2, 2010 at 9:43 pm

      You gave great points here. I made a research on the subject and found nearly all peoples will agree with your blog.

      Reply
    13. shahid says:
      April 2, 2010 at 10:54 pm

      cool stuff. please post more…!!!!

      Reply
    14. Masker says:
      April 3, 2010 at 7:05 am

      Cool pics. Also, i didn’t know yet that T80 is driven by turbine instead of diesel.

      Reply
    15. brbrbr says:
      April 3, 2010 at 7:32 am

      redcardinal you wrong.
      T80 MBT(best soviet MBT’s line) is superior to all western counterpart both by firepower, mobility, protection, reliability, cost of ownership.
      major flaws like lack of ergonomics[and air conditioner] and outdated FCS will fined soon in [already]improved T80′s variations.

      Reply
    16. Ivana Benderova says:
      April 3, 2010 at 6:46 pm

      Russia’s economy and standard of living has already “tanked.” Why do we need photos of it?

      Reply
    17. Gowking says:
      April 4, 2010 at 10:26 pm

      Oh yeah I should add there’s no way the T80 or even the T90 could go toe to toe with an Abrams.

      Reply
    18. Testicules says:
      April 5, 2010 at 6:00 am

      I agree. The M-1 is far superior. Lethality, Survivability, and it’s ability share real time tactical data, make the T-90s and T-80s very inferior. You see a lot of photos of those nice Russian domed turrents popped off and laying somewhere else.

      Reply
      • Lebanese says:
        April 6, 2010 at 12:52 am

        The best Russian made tank that the M-1 has ever challenged in real time war was the T-72 and it didn’t do well because of the M-1′s superior electronics and stuff plus the T-72 was operated by Iraqis…so these popped of Russian turrets cannot be used as evidence of M-1′s superiority over the T-80 or the T-90

        Reply
        • Lebanese says:
          April 6, 2010 at 1:20 am

          P.S. The M-1 tank has 2 very big logistics and strategic problems:
          1-it weighs more than 61 tonnes so for crossing rivers it needs large strong bridges and it can be transported by air but only the c-5 or c-17 can transport such a huge load.
          2-the M-1 tank requires 1 gallon of fuel for every kilometer it moves so lets say you have a column of M-1 tanks then u would require a huge convoy of soft skinned fuel tankers to remain close behind and these fuel tankers in turn would require protection or a child with a bbgun can destroy the entire convoy

          Reply
    19. Testicules says:
      April 6, 2010 at 6:33 am

      -I think it i fair to say that all tanks require massive amounts of logistical support. Read any accounts of the dessert campaigns of WW2. Raiding and using the enemies supplies were doctrine.
      -Transportation to the battlefield would be a more serious issue for another country. However the US has no problem with moving massive amounts of war fighting equipment. Also, the prepositioning of equipment in world hotspots is a luxury no other country has. Who else can afford to keep a couple divisions worth of equipment in storage for a future war in multiple locations.
      -Popped turrents are not something you see on the M-1. It has built in vents that reduce the damage if the ammunition explodes. Also the composite armor is some of the best in the world. There were M-1s that had taken multiple anti tank hits and didn’t lose a crew memeber. Even in the recent Georgia campaign you have seen popped turrents on both sides.
      -Finally, doctrine is the greatest advantage. A standing volunteer army is much more lethal than a conscript army. The C3 capability of a US Army RCT is sick and has no drop off in night ops. Until Russia gets away from the conscript system, they will always put an inferior army on the field.

      Reply
    20. From Finland with love says:
      April 10, 2010 at 11:37 am

      Well I find the T-80(with good crew+upgrades) to be as lethal as an M1(which isn’t the best tank in the world[K2, the new Japanese MBT, Leo2]), same goes for the T-72. T-90 is one of the best tanks currently on service.

      I would’ve liked to see the BMP-3 and the BMT but oh well

      Reply
    21. Kratoss says:
      April 22, 2010 at 2:51 am

      The T-72 was the best (and maybe still is the best battle tank)the best battle tank, because it was very fast, low to the ground and a 125 mm 2A46 series main gun, i saw a documentary about it, because it was low to the ground and fast it poses a big threat.

      Reply
    22. Nichola says:
      April 24, 2010 at 12:42 pm

      Don’t you need to possess a strong B in the social sciences to manage a blog similar to this?

      Reply
    23. GREK says:
      August 7, 2010 at 3:37 pm

      Leopard2a6Hel and T-80 (T-90) are the best i serve in a tank unit.

      Reply

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