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45 Popov – Champion, Marconi – Impostor

Popov – Champion, Marconi – Impostor

Posted on November 13, 2009 by


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Over a hundred years there is an argument in the world concerning real radio inventor. But one needs to do a little research to make it clear that Marconi had simply read Popov’s papers.

The first known evidence for Marconi to be the radio inventor appeared on June 2, 1896 with his patent application to the UK Patent Office for a discovery, 13 months after Popov had delivered his lecture on radio themes before the Russian Physical and Chemical Society members in St. Petersburg on May 7, 1895. That secret patent application #12039, inspired as they say by the UK Patent Office’s Principal examiner William Preece, the Chief Electrical Engineer of the British Post Office, however contained no diagrams and charts performed by Marconi himself but his lyrical sketches only.

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Due to the fact Marconi was a half-educated person in physics he was greatly helped by the attached telegraphy specialist, electrical engineer George S. Kemp. The results of their double-work called sometimes “curious” cannot be sorted out even by the present specialists without having A.S.Popov’s layouts and diagrams as explanations before their eyes.

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45 Responses to “Popov – Champion, Marconi – Impostor”

  1. brontoburger says:

    FIRST !!!
    This is absolutely true.

  2. Milan says:

    Acctually, many people were involved in the invention of radio transmission (more in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_radio ). The first groundbreaker was acctually Nikola Tesla.

  3. vodkins says:

    Popov was surely first. Just like Mendeleev with Periodic system of elements. Even former russian Sikorsky guy was after Cheremukhin in creating helicopters. West people a good in take patents and make money on it. Russians are weak in this aspect, just imaginationists and besserebrenniks (sorry, no equal word in english).

  4. Kirov says:

    yea 100% true

  5. Steamed McQueen says:

    Having been to the Popov museum in Kronshchdat I can safely say that he was indeed first.

    It was a wonderful lesson about how ‘first’ is often determined not by who first invents, but who first gets to the patent office .

  6. jim says:

    tesla has a patent for radio dated 1893, it is widely known that tesla, not popov nor marconi invented the first wireless.

  7. barba sime says:

    Jim is right!!!

    Nikola Tesla is the one who invented radio, but Marconi took the credit and in 1909 won Nobel Prize for it! It is rumored that Tesla refused to be nominated for Nobel in 1912 in protest. however, with Tesla being Serbian and Popov Russian, I don’t think Tesla would mind too much if the Prize went to the Russian instead of Marconi :-)

  8. carlos says:

    hi There !

    Hi I know that my comment has nothing to do here, but I need help to get some info about my last name, I have some years trying to find info, the last thing I can investigate was that my last name is a russian one, it is Bugarin is that info true ? also can you help me to know what this means and some history about it???? Many Thanks

  9. J says:

    There are lots of stuff invented by Russians (and other slav countries like Bulgaria, Serbia, etc), unfortunately the country’s condition and laws didn’t allow them to reach their maximum potential, and most of them left the country to continue their research. Those who were left had to watch others claim their inventions as their own.

    How did the slavs get to be always controlled by others (communists, socialists, bandits, you name it), while Westerners fought for themselves and are still in the lead (I’m talking about UK, US, Germany who lost 2 wars yet are still in the G8, etc.)?

    • openeyed says:

      That is an interesting question J, I hope to see some responses too the question from some of our “slav” friends. They are free now though, and I for one am hoping for peace and prosperity for them all.

  10. Dr. Goebbels says:

    Aw, you silly git! How comes you do not know the world is controlled by Jud Süss? I thought we had already released the extra-value DVD attached to every can of the own-brand lager sold in Asda to target the chav audience…

  11. Domo says:

    That’s how it always goes with invention priorities! Read about the Nobel Prize in physics at:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RELIKT-1
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/РЕЛИКТ-1

  12. are you kidding says:

    its a shame what you lose when you are commie nation for 70 yrs .

  13. Musa says:

    So what you are too! Who the fock cares!!!

  14. Toriton says:

    For sure it was Tesla, probably greatest genius in history, and undeservedly uncredited. He refused the Nobel prize because he was offered to receive it and split it with Edison, the guy that had set him up numerous times, a real fake. Tesla made inventions that could benefit all humanity, and Edison and others that had much lesser knowledge and talent were only in it for money and praise. I guess the genius and inventions of Tesla will be appreciated only by generations that will come in future, since he was centuries in front of his time.

    • Heatmiser says:

      Tesla vs. Edison.

      During the race to electrify the world, George Westinghouse and Nikola Tesla advocated the use of Alternating Current whereas Thomas Edison advocated Direct Current. The benefits of AC is that it is cheaper to produce, easier to transmit over long distances and has the ability to be “stepped up” (or down) with transformers.

      I have often been told that DC in high voltages is deadlier than AC if you get shocked. I know from personal experience having been shocked by a 90volt DC MacCulloch circuit that DC is no fun. I got blown off a ladder and landed about 10ft away. Gettting shocked by 110volt AC is just annoying. (yes I realize amperage also comes into play here).

      In any case, to sway public opinion that AC was bad news, Thomas Edison invented the electric chair which put people to death by exposing them to high AC volatages. The idea being to accociate alternating current with death in the public view. It seems to me that the slight distinction of AC vs DC was pretty much not grasped by the general public and Thomas Edison eventually lost the “battle of the currents”.

      But we still have the electric chair.

  15. cider-drinker says:

    Whilst on the subject of Tesla, He also discovered how to send Electricity wirelessly. This way being able to offer anybody in the world access to the new technology. (He knew that the earth was a giant conductor, he also found out how to split the earth in half using vibrations, but that is a different story) However when he approached General Electric they agreed to purchase 51% of his invention for around $55,000. Then once the contract was signed refused to release the invention to the public. GE had spent so much in wiring up New York that they refused to throw it all away on new wireless equipment.

    He died pennyless and undiscovered for two days in NY. The CIA were the first to enter his room and it was later discovered his diaries were missing/removed.
    A true eccentric and proberly unlikable electrical Genius.

  16. China invented sheety take out food.

  17. Al Gore says:

    Do not be fooled by these lies, it was I who invented the radio.

  18. matthew says:

    This is one of my favorite sites on the internet, but I think the author needs to update the original post with at least a nod toward Tesla. Even Popov himself said:

    “[...] the emission and reception of signals by Marconi by means of electric oscillations [was] nothing new. In America, the famous engineer Nikola Tesla carried the same experiments in 1893.”

    As you said, Popov’s lecture was in 1895.

    Anyway, I think we can all agree Marconi was a thief on top of being a rotten fascist.

  19. Team America says:

    “In 1900, Popov stated at the Congress of Russian Electrical Engineers that,

    “the emission and reception of signals by Marconi by means of electric oscillations was nothing new, as in America Nikola Tesla did the same experiments in 1893.””

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Popov_(physicist)

    One Russian inventor who should get more attention is Oleg Vladimirovich Losev. He laid the foundation for modern LEDs, optical relays and ultra high frequency semiconductor oscillators. Unfortunately, he died in the Siege of Leningrad delaying these fields for decades.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Vladimirovich_Losev

  20. Mr.Merkulov says:

    The admirers of G.Marconi do not read his own written scripts. In his biographies and in his Nobel lecture Marconi reported, that he started the experiences on wireless communication in the garret of father’s country-house in Italy in June 1895.
    At the beginning of the Nobel lecture Marconi adduces his first scheme, which couldn’t work. In his 1st and 2nd patents ( published in the Internet), Marconi wrote a lot of physical absurdities.
    In 1901 Marconi failed to transmit the letter “S” through Atlantic Ocean. But he deceived everybody and he said, that this transmission took place. Marconi told most of all physical absurdities at the Nobel lecture, where he said, that Hertz was wrong, when he had discovered, that radio-waves could transmit through the ether and air. In Marconi’s opinion, radio-waves must transmit on the surface of earth and water, that is a monstrous mistake.

  21. Mr.Merkulov says:

    In his youth G.Marconi dreamt of becoming a seaman, but he was a weak pupil at school, that is why he failed to enter Italian Naval Academy. In a year he couldn’t pass the exams to Civil Bologna University. Hereon his education came to nothing. Later during the Nobel lecture Marconi said: “I never studied physics or electrotechnics in the regular manner” and had “to use the medium of the English language”.
    It is known from Marconi’s biography, that he did not apply to the scientific and state authorities with the suggestions about the publication and realization of his scripts. In order to steal away from conscription in Native land, Marconi left his house and went to Great Britain in February 1896. Nothing happened with him on transition through the border in a custom-house. On the 31st of March 1896 Marconi was introduced to W.Preece, the Head of the British Post Office, who liked the handsome Italian. After the familiarization with fantasies of young man, Preece asked the engineering service of British Navy to make up the examination and test software tools of G.Marconi. After that the revision of gear was made in order to adapt it for exploitation. Marconi carried out the 1st test of the wireless system for the specialists of Post Office on the 27th of July 1896. There was used the scheme, which was adduced at the start of the Nobel lecture of G.Marconi. The transmission through Morse code did not take place. Preece and Marconi needed 2 years, only close by May 1897, they succeeded to understand and to copy the scheme of the receiver from the Popov’s wireless system. The test of more ideal gear, they carried out on English Bristol Channel. In June 1897 Preece wrote the article for the magazine “Electrician”, where he published the scheme of the receiver of Popov’s wireless system.

  22. Mr. Merkylov says:

    In his youth G.Marconi dreamt of becoming a seaman, but he was a weak pupil at school, that is why he failed to enter Italian Naval Academy. In a year he couldn’t pass the exams to Civil Bologna University. Hereon his education came to nothing. Later during the Nobel lecture Marconi said: “I never studied physics or electrotechnics in the regular manner” and had “to use the medium of the English language”.
    It is known from Marconi’s biography, that he did not apply to the scientific and state authorities with the suggestions about the publication and realization of his scripts. In order to steal away from conscription in Native land, Marconi left his house and went to Great Britain in February 1896. Nothing happened with him on transition through the border in a custom-house. On the 31st of March 1896 Marconi was introduced to W.Preece, the Head of the British Post Office, who liked the handsome Italian. After the familiarization with fantasies of young man, Preece asked the engineering service of British Navy to make up the examination and test software tools of G.Marconi. After that the revision of gear was made in order to adapt it for exploitation. Marconi carried out the 1st test of the wireless system for the specialists of Post Office on the 27th of July 1896. There was used the scheme, which was adduced at the start of the Nobel lecture of G.Marconi. The transmission through Morse code did not take place. Preece and Marconi needed 2 years, only close by May 1897, they succeeded to understand and to copy the scheme of the receiver from the Popov’s wireless system. The test of more ideal gear, they carried out on English Bristol Channel. In June 1897 Preece wrote the article for the magazine “Electrician”, where he published the scheme of the receiver of Popov’s wireless system.

  23. Mr.Merkulov says:

    In his youth G.Marconi dreamt of becoming a seaman, but he was a weak pupil at school, that is why he failed to enter Italian Naval Academy. In a year he couldn’t pass the exams to Civil Bologna University. Hereon his education came to nothing. Later during the Nobel lecture Marconi said: “I never studied physics or electrotechnics in the regular manner” and had “to use the medium of the English language”.
    It is known from Marconi’s biography, that he did not apply to the scientific and state authorities with the suggestions about the publication and realization of his scripts. In order to steal away from conscription in Native land, Marconi left his house and went to Great Britain in February 1896. Nothing happened with him on transition through the border in a custom-house. On the 31st of March 1896 Marconi was introduced to W.Preece, the Head of the British Post Office, who liked the handsome Italian. After the familiarization with fantasies of young man, Preece asked the engineering service of British Navy to make up the examination and test software tools of G.Marconi. After that the revision of gear was made in order to adapt it for exploitation. Marconi carried out the 1st test of the wireless system for the specialists of Post Office on the 27th of July 1896. There was used the scheme, which was adduced at the start of the Nobel lecture of G.Marconi. The transmission through Morse code did not take place. Preece and Marconi needed 2 years, only close by May 1897, they succeeded to understand and to copy the scheme of the receiver from the Popov’s wireless system. The test of more ideal gear, they carried out on English Bristol Channel. In June 1897 Preece wrote the article for the magazine “Electrician”, where he published the scheme of the receiver of Popov’s wireless system.

  24. Mr.Merkulov says:

    In his youth G.Marconi dreamt of becoming a seaman, but he was a weak pupil at school, that is why he failed to enter Italian Naval Academy. In a year he couldn’t pass the exams to civil Bologna University. Hereon his education came to nothing. Later during the Nobel lecture Marconi said: “I never studied physics or electrotechnics in the regular manner” and had “to use the medium of the English language”.

  25. Bull says:

    In his youth G.Marconi dreamt of becoming a seaman, but he was a weak pupil at school, that is why he failed to enter Italian Naval Academy. In a year he couldn’t pass the exams to civil Bologna University. Hereon his education came to nothing. Later during the Nobel lecture Marconi said: “I never studied physics or electrotechnics in the regular manner” and had “to use the medium of the English language”.

  26. Mr.Merkulov says:

    In his youth G.Marconi dreamt of becoming a seaman, but he was a weak pupil at school, that is why he failed to enter Italian Naval Academy. In a year he couldn’t pass the exams to civil Bologna University. Hereon his education came to nothing. Later during the Nobel lecture Marconi said: “I never studied physics or electrotechnics in the regular manner” and had “to use the medium of the English language”.
    It is known from Marconi’s biography, that he did not apply to Italian scientific and state authorities with the suggestions about the publication and realization of his scripts. In order to steal away from conscription in Native land, Marconi left his house and went to Great Britain in February 1896. Nothing happened with him on transition through the border in a custom-house. On the 31st of March 1896 Marconi was introduced to W.Preece, the Head of the British Post Office, who liked the handsome Italian. After the familiarization with fantasies of young man, Preece asked the engineering service of British Navy to make up the examination and test software tools of G.Marconi. After that the revision of gear was made in order to adapt it for exploitation. Preece and Marconi needed 2 years, only close by May 1897, they succeeded to understand and to copy the scheme of the receiver from the Popov’s wireless system. The test of more ideal gear, they carried out on English Bristol Channel. In June 1897 Preece wrote the article for the magazine “Electrician”, where he published the scheme of the receiver of Popov’s wireless system.

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  29. Mr.Merkulov says:

    In his youth G.Marconi dreamt of becoming a seaman, but he was a weak pupil at school, that is why he failed to enter Italian Naval Academy. In a year he couldn’t pass the exams to Civil Bologna University. Hereon his education came to nothing. Later during the Nobel lecture Marconi said: “I never studied physics or electrotechnics in the regular manner” and had “to use the medium of the English language”.
    It is known from Marconi’s biography, that he did not apply to the scientific and state authorities with the suggestions about the publication and realization of his scripts. In order to steal away from conscription in Native land, Marconi left his house and went to Great Britain in February 1896. Nothing happened with him on transition through the border in a custom-house.

  30. Mr.Merkulov says:

    On the 31st of March 1896 Marconi was introduced to W.Preece, the Head of the British Post Office, who liked the handsome Italian. After the familiarization with fantasies of young man, Preece asked the engineering service of British Navy to make up the examination and test software tools of G.Marconi. After that the revision of gear was made in order to adapt it for exploitation. Marconi carried out the 1st test of the wireless system for the specialists of Post Office on the 27th of July 1896. There was used the scheme, which was adduced at the start of the Nobel lecture of G.Marconi. The transmission through Morse code did not take place. Preece and Marconi needed 2 years, only close by May 1897, they succeeded to understand and to copy the scheme of the receiver from the Popov’s wireless system. The test of more ideal gear, they carried out on English Bristol Channel. In June 1897 Preece wrote the article for the magazine “Electrician”, where he published the scheme of the receiver of Popov’s wireless system.

  31. Mr.Merkulov says:

    Guglielmo Marconi was a weak pupil at school, but he had dreams of becoming a seaman. He failed to enter Italian Naval Academy. In a year he couldn’t pass the exams to Civil Bologna University. Hereon his education came to nothing. Later during the Nobel lecture Marconi said: “I never studied physics or electrotechnics in the regular manner” and had “to use the medium of the English language”.
    It is known from Marconi’s biography, that he did not apply to Italy scientific and state authorities with the suggestions about the publication and realization of his scripts. In order to steal away from conscription in Native land, Marconi left his house and went to Great Britain in February 1896. Nothing happened with him on transition through the border in a custom-house.

  32. Puranjay says:

    Indian Scientist Sir J C Bose did a lot of experiment on radio wave well before Marconi. Sir Nevill Mott, Nobel Laureate in 1977 for his own contributions to solid-state electronics, remarked that “J.C. Bose was at least 60 years ahead of his time. In fact, he had anticipated the existence of P-type and N-type semiconductors. As per Indian tradition he neither went for patenting them nor went for self-publicity, hence did not get his recognition from the West. Skin color also mattered.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose

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