106 Kissing Soldiers

Kissing Soldiers

Posted on December 24, 2007 by


Probably many of us still remember this Soviet post stamp dated back at 1945 - at the end of WW2. There were a lot of talks of its real meaning and now somebody has found its three dimensional realization in Soviet Army museum:


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russian soldiers kiss

Some people say it depicts "the spirit of brotherhood that was among soldiers in WW2", well at least it seems that sixty years ago it seemed nothing bad for Russian people to see kissing men, no gay accusations no homophobia talks etc. The world has changed for the past years greatly then.

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106 Responses to “Kissing Soldiers”

  1. Dan says:

    Had to do this – FIRST!

  2. Visitor says:

    Is this a symbol of the real reason so many Russian women emigrate to the west? :)

    • Boris Abramov says:

      True. When it comes to the eastren europian women, americans just couldn’t match. Whether its their looks, personality, charm or intellect, they are simply in whole different league.

      Girls from the Baltic States are especially nice. If they weren’t so brainwashed by all the nationalist propaganda, then I would defintally consider one for a permanent relationship.

      I am currently dating a nice Polish girl, who by her own admission, escaped from her corrupt, crime-ridden country for a better life here in the UK to work as waitress. She is a new generation, of just 18 yers of age, so she hasn’t yet had a chance to get sucked in into the whole the racist xenophobic campaign that her native country tries so hard prefect. And I sincerely hope she never will. She is lovely girl with a kind heart. We recently made a New Year’s Resolution – that is of me learning basic Polish by the end of 2009 (with her help of course) and her, speaking almost fluent English (with my help). She is gorgeous :)

      • Richard S. says:

        Congratulations Boris and merry Christmas :)

      • talking beaver says:

        Sooner it looks that you do not know Boris Abramov. Though do not worry, it comes with time… ;)

      • Boris Abramov says:

        Somebody using my name again

      • rafal says:

        Respect to Talking Beaver, the Estonian.
        I hope they will kick you all russians out of theit counrty, back to Asia.

        • Boris Abramov says:

          This is what talking beaver wanted to say all along. I guess you are just a bit more brave then he is. At least people will now have even the slightest idea of what Russian and Jewish minorities have to put up with on the daily basis in the Baltic States.

          Note: Rafal is not even an extremist. He represents the average citizen of the Baltic States. He is a typical example of poor brainwashed soul who fell victim to his government’s racist neo-nazi propaganda campaign. Should we be surprised when we see and hear that things like these not only condoned but encouraged in the Baltic States?

          http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/c/c5/Lihula_monument.jpg

          http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article62090.ece

          http://www.developmentandtransition.net/index.cfm?module=ActiveWeb&page=WebPage&DocumentID=586

          Here is good example of Estonian school curriculum and what horrendous xenophobic book Estonian children are encouraged to read:

          http://www2.yousaytoo.com/user/Ganza/4010

          • rafal says:

            I’m not from Baltic States at first. But not far enough to not know what you Russians are.

          • talking beaver says:

            As of your links: funny assembly of assorted staff. Mainly a references to loud and biased opinions of similarly minded Russian and Russia-friendly folks.

            As for that newsletter article – see another article in another issue: “Rejoinder to James Hughes”

            See also here: Flat Earth Society

            The bottom line: you can “prove” anything without leaving your desk. Especially when it comes to politics, where skilled lying and misinterpretation of facts often is all it takes.

            Keep going, Boris! Communists generated a lot of propaganda stuff over the last 70 years you can use in your theories with minor adjustments.

            • Boris Abramov says:

              LOL

              Yes, Independent and the UN are well know to be Russia-friendly :) How pathetic. You say that they are biased and lies, yet for some reason you cannot dispute then. I dont know, but could it be because they are in fact FACTS?

              • talkin beaver says:

                What do you want me to dispute? That some guys put on the monument like we see it in the picture? Well, I think it was silly and inappropriate.

                But what you forget to mention in that particular case, is that the monument was taken down and the government of Estonia themselves condemned its installation.

                And so it goes. You show a picture, say something that is not there or just some part of it as you see fit. After running this procedure for several times you have a handy collection of images which seem to support your theory. Unfortunately, this illusion lasts only as long as you do not go looking for what is actually there.

                As for those declarations of strange people, they are of your political camp. A bunch of guys come together, make statements supporting each other, and refer to those statements to prove how right they are. Very easy. Like that Hughes guy – I gave you a link to another point of view on what he says.

                Poor EU, they even do not know that Nazis are already in their back yard! They forgot to ask you. :)

                • Boris Abramov says:

                  I should have known that you would consider everything to be Russia friendly apart from the Baltic media, Radio Free Liberty and the Fox news :) Even the clearly anti-Russian publication such as the Independent UK will fit into that profile, because sometimes they actually manage to tell at lest part of the truth about the atrocities being commited in the Baltic States.

                  Pathetic.

        • Boris Abramov says:

          Isn’t it ironic. The the National Bolshevik Party is in the coalition of Garry Kasparov’s “Other Russia”. This, in the westertn media, is seen as tyhelegitimate “libero-democratic” opposition to the Putin’s “dictatorship”.

          Well well, now the hypocrisy is all so clear. Neocons will not only support extremist like Garry Kasparov, but in fact, the devil himself. Anyone or anything that will aid the collapse Putin’s regime, because he is see as the only one challenging the current aggressive imperial Neocon foreign policy. In the 90’s it was the mafia oligarchs such as Berezovsky and Gusinskiy and now its the unpleasant mix of hardline Communists and neo-Nazis. God bless America!

          • talking beaver says:

            -> Boris Abramov

            Year, right “God bless America” for Russians inventing National-Bolshevism and Russian plans of global domination. After all – it is America’s fault. ;)

            As for Putin – National Bolshevik love and hate relation. I frankly do not see much difference between them, except that Putin hides what NBP says openly.

            Now listen, this is funny!

            In Latvia NBP (Nat.-Bol Party, local branch) are considered to to be good guys by Moscow backed local Russian parties and organizations. They have been throwing smoke granades in public events in causing disorder, being detained by police for that and later posed as “victims” of “police brutality” in Russian media locally in Latvia, in Russia and elsewhere abroad.

            Some years ago a group of Russian National Bolsheviks even occupied a church tower in the Old Town of Riga, taking hostage the tower guard. They threatened to blow the church tower up. SWAT team was called to bring them down. It turned out that the hand grenade they threatened with was a dummy. Lucky, no one got shot or died.

            In USA those man would be charged with terrorism and imprisoned for years to come.

            In Riga they were detained for a short while but later release. Russian embassy came forward with a statement where they condemned the “unnecessarily harsh measures and overreacting of Latvian authorities” of these fighters for “Russian rights”. The leader of Latvian branch of NBP was accused of storing explosives in his home, but run to Russia which offered him a protection against “evil Latvian Nazis authorities”.

            Ironically, some time later NBP dared to carry out similar acts in Russia, which angered Mr. Putin, who very effectively got a lot of those formerly “poor victims” arrested and out to prison for years for much less important acts then taking hostages and threatening with acts of terror!

            This is funny! Don’t you think so?

            Shall we talk about me being “phobic”? :)

      • Boris Abramov says:

        I rest my case.

      • talking beaver says:

        Thanks, man!

        I am glad that Estonia and Estonians are doing well and better so by every passing day.

        And I am happy to see that the intrigues and political terror of Russia against its miniature Baltic neighbor are failing, as whole of the world gradually begins to realize what they are actually dealing with when it comes to Russia.

        Actually I am Latvian (Boris Abramov tells everyone that I am Estonian, but, as most of the things he tells, it is not true).

        • Marina says:

          “And I am happy to see that the intrigues and political terror of Russia against its miniature Baltic neighbor

          You silly little boy talking beaver. Yoy have still so much to learn from life. One of the things I hope you will learn in the reality of Peace.

          It was not Russia who committed political terror against the Baltic naighbor, it was the Soviet Union. Russia was just a victim like the any other member of this evil union.

          • talkin beaver says:

            -> Marina
            … besides, there is no need for you to pretend that you do not understand that I meant modern day Putin’s Russia’s Cold War of pressure, propaganda and intrigues waged against its neighbors.

          • talkin beaver says:

            FYI. There is a serious suspicion that Justin is another name for Boris Abramov. Compare the posts and draw your conclusions.

      • Marina says:

        “While Russians (as in Russia – the nation at political level, not the people as individuals)”

        You are twisting like a snake.

        I know, my English is not good, but lets look a definition of the word “Russians”

        http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Russians&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

        Russians (РусскиеRusskiye ) are an East Slavic ethnic group, primarily living in Russia and neighboring countries

        As you can see this word has nothing to do with “the nation at political level”, but has everthing to do with “the people as individuals” and you know it!

        I am disappointed in people like. You have nothing holy inside you. You do not hate the Soviet Union. You do not hate its leaders, but you hate the whole nation. You must be a sad and lonely man. Just wait until you get to my age, if the earth is going to carry you this long.

        Abramov is right. It is best not to engage any verbal exchange with you.

        • Boris Abramov says:

          LOL

          Talking beaver, you are digging yourself a great big hole. Also,by denying your statement was not racist, or at least xenophobic, you are making yourself look even more pathetic then you already are :)

      • talkin beaver says:

        :) How touchy of you to pretend not to remember certain facts.

        For example that I have already pointed out before that Justin and Boris Abramov make surprisingly similar, practically identical comments and possibly are the same person.

        There are certain things, like certain parts of structure of messages, which repeat, with most likely two explanations – either these people are using template or they are the same person.

        Aside from Justin and Boris Abramov, a newcomer “Marina”, who came here to “improve her English” fits the pattern very well, using whole phrases and language constructs from vocabulary of Boris Abramov.

        Well, of cause that is all just a hypothesis and can not be 100% proven unless the guy who is sitting behind the computer monitor would by taken by his ear and pulled out in the sunlight. So we will have to live with that. Though, as statistical data accumulates, more conclusions may be drawn either in favor or against this assumption.

        • Boris Abramov says:

          With reagard to the authenticity of Marina, there is a simple way of proving that she is in fact “authentic”. Just look at the Forum and you will see that she is registered there just as I am. And as far as I am aware, one cannot use multiple personalities on Forums. But you already knew that, right? Aren’t again just trying everything to discredit your opponents, Beaver?

        • Ilya says:

          Boris Abramov and talking beaver is one person

      • Paulina says:

        =>Boris Abramov

        “corrupt, crime-ridden country”

        Oh my, it’s not THAT bad ;) Your friend probably went to UK (as many other young people from Poland, including my friend) to get a better paid job (doing the same thing but earning more money).
        Btw, the government in Poland changed (the Civic Platform defeated the Law and Justice party) so “the xenophobic campaign”, as you call it, is over ;)

        Greetings from Poland :)

      • Tyrone says:

        Agreed, Marina. I really enjoy reading about Russia and the history of Slavs and I’d like for us to put the past behind us. No nation is perfect and I wish for every Slavic country lots of love and good fortune.
        First, I discovered the englishrussia website by accident and I am appalled at some of the comments we make towards each country. Please. Why do some of us continue to spew angry rhetorical responses about our Eastern European friends?
        Eastern Europeans have never had it easy with so many invasions and numerous tries to have a stable government.
        We should celebrate the wonderful contributions the Eastern Europeans have made to make the world a better place to live through music, science, food, mathematics, philosophy, law, ethics, and other areas of human accomplishments.
        I know we must work together to defeat the forces which give rise to wars, racism, and the mentality that allows these germs to breed in all areas of life.
        Just as the photos of Ukrainians at soccer games wearing Klan-style hoods with posters of lynched Africans that symbolized a dark moment of American history is as awful as what we Blacks have experienced in the U.S.A in the Jim Crow South.
        Just how did the Ukraine come to hate Africans? My brother is a teacher in Hollywood and one of his best friends is a enchanting woman from the Ukraine. She has introduced him to various Slavic foods like borscht and pelmeni. And it was a joy to hear the children sing songs in Russian or Ukrainian. The school by the way is mixed with plenty of Hispanics, Blacks, Whites, and Asians. Elementary school-aged children all singing with no sign of hate.
        To the Ukrainians, please don’t fear us. What have we done to deserve your wrath? Some of us would love to learn about your culture. Who transmitted the hate virus to Kharkov? Our numbers are tiny in the Ukraine. Your nation fought against the Nazis who sought to obliterate you and placed many of you in camps. Did any Blacks do that?
        I guess you can say I am like a Paul Robeson type, one who loved the Russians and wanted them to succeed in face of incredible odds.
        Lastly, it’s only a small number of those who promote this kind of behavior and we in America are no different. But together, we can do eliminate racism. Sorry if I went on at length, but I am concerned. The Slavs are a nice bunch of people, though.

    • Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict. says:

      Women from America, Canada, U.K. and Australia suck! They are brainwashed by our western culture that they are better than men. Most of them to not hold traditional family values.

      Here is some advice from nomarriage.com

      http://www.nomarriage.com/why_foreign_women_are_better.html

      Russian women fall in this category. I am glad I have a Russian girlfriend :)

      • Texas1 says:

        Russian family values?????? This sounds like the making of a funny cartoon!

        • Texas1 says:

          Of course I know who my parents are. Do you know your parents? Chances are your parents are also your brother and sister or your brother and your babushka! Please, open your mind to the horrors of Stalinism 2.0 and close your minds to the deceptive brain washing crusade your government has on the beautiful and peaceful west!!!

          • ikken says:

            >Chances are your parents are also your brother and sister or your brother and your babushka!

            This really hurts you? You whant to talk about it?

            I think in xUSSR chances of this are a little less than chance to find out big “snake” in cowards of the nice girl in the middle of remote texas village, who is the “father” of its own grandpa

            Короче, харэ небылицы тут рассказывать, про жуткий инцест на просторах 1/6 части суши

    • Al says:

      In Russia there is a saying, “Russian women are not the equals of men. They are better.” Feminists get short shrift there because of this. There is no comparing a Russian woman to your average American woman, the American woman is usually of a self serving nature that cares little for family or anything that may be important to someone else. There are exceptions to both rules, always have been always will be but as far as womanhood and femininity Russian women are in a class by themselves. And I have one.

  3. Adam From Canada says:

    This is a re-post!

  4. My wife is American, and she flat out ROCKS.

  5. Almost forgot.
    Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Joyous Festivus (for the rest of us) and Happy Humbug to everyone!

  6. Texas1 says:

    Yes, it is! In fact, it may have been posted twice.

  7. Pavel says:

    Awwwww.. How cute! :)

  8. snuggles says:

    I agree !!

  9. talking beaver says:

    By the way, the first picture (with dates 1918-1968) uses a fragment of Soviet propaganda poster dedicated to “liberating Ukraine from Polish yoke” in 1939. The sodier is Soviet Russian Red Army infantryman, and the other guy is supposed to be Ukrainian peasant greeting his “liberator”.

    In 1939 Nazies invaded Poland from the West and Soviets did the same few days later from the East. Both were partners at that time and divided Poland amongst themselves (annexed it). Had a common military parade in a town of Brest-Litovsk. Wermacht and Red Army together – hand in hand. Though I don’t know if Russians kissed Germans exactly like this.

    If there would not had been full scale WWII as it was, the Poland would had disappeared from the map of the world, torn to pieces by Germans Nazis and Russian Bolsheviks.

    So actually what you are looking at is in a way part of a Nazi-Soviet friendship propaganda campaign.

    Curious. Isn’t it?

    • talking beaver says:

      …”Western Ukraine” I should have said… used to be part of Poland.

      (Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine, Belarus once used to be a single country – one of the most powerful in Europe of the time. It was major rival to Muscovy – which is modern day Russia.)

    • talking beaver says:

      -> Pros

      Go and kiss the ass of Rudolph the Reindeer!

  10. Zafarad says:

    Thanks a lot,you both guys are very cool.merry Christmas all of you.look at over the dark sky,you will find “Santa with alien companions”.

  11. Russia - news in brief says:

    Well. Christmas day in Russia. Nothing really new, proceeding as always:

    A new intercontinental ballistic missile has been tested, which will help to protect the Souvereign Democracy of Russia against threats from evil West – Rusian people rejoice.

    Another Russian teenager sentenced to jail for racial hatred motivated killing. This time a man from Kyrgizia was stabbed 5 times for being non-Russian.

    Russkieland alive and kicking – ready to teach you democracy and human rights any time anywhere ™.

    • zax says:

      Actually, it is not Christmas day in Russia yet. The majority of Ortodox Christian Churches (including Russian) still use Julian calendar, so Christmas day will be on January 7th.

  12. Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict. says:

    Another problem with American women is that they are your competitor not a marriage partner. They always want to out-do their man. That’s why most western marriages are unstable…
    Not to mention they constantly nag.

  13. Texas1 says:

    Is talking beaver really from estonia?

    • talking beaver says:

      -> Boris Abramov

      Pay attention to details!
      I said supposedly Great Russia.

    • Marina says:

      Boris, he simply cannot. Much like Hitler’s propaganda everthing he writes is just plain rhetoric without a any factual evidence.

      He will keep on writing racist material until he is evicted. There is simply nothing anyone can do about it. So take your own avdvice, Boris and do not engage verbally with this sad person.

      Your friend,

      Marina

  14. Bullwinkle says:

    and snuggles, Jennifer, etc.

  15. snuggles says:

    I agree.

  16. talking beaver says:

    fake (both comments).

    being obsessed by “estonian” the second comment might be coming from Boris Abramov (just like the first one too, actually).

  17. sjef says:

    You again ? Still no brain activity, as is clear.

  18. talking beaver says:

    well, might be a good idea.

    all the nick stealing here and the mess that follows could be prevented if posters would have to register (while anonymous postings should still be allowed – those are often the funniest ones).

    still, how can you guarantee that Boris Abramov will not go running and register first, that talking beaver is an evil Estonian Nazi paid by CIA for spreading his racist xenophobic message to hurt Mother Russia?

    not very much reliable. technically.

    • talking beaver says:

      -> Boris Abramov

      I will just add that I am happy that you actually do openly admit that you do not have any actual relation to Baltic States.

      So, actually, all the huge masses of bombastic accusations you unload here come from the sources like state controlled Russia’s mass media, Russian nationalist press abroad and Russian “activist” (extremist) organizations. Yeah, and your mysterious “friends” you referred once. Who are telling you things. “Activist” friends, I guess.

      Really…

      • Boris Abramov says:

        “I will just add that I am happy that you actually do openly admit that you do not have any actual relation to Baltic States”

        Oh really? How is that?

        “So, actually, all the huge masses of bombastic accusations you unload here come from the sources like state controlled Russias mass media”

        Ha Ha HA! What are talking about? :) Give me one example where I use sources from the “state controlled Russias mass media”.

        Even if I were to do so, don’t you think that are a bit more objective then the FOX news? :)

    • ikken says:

      I guess, i know why Baltic States are so rusophobic. It is because of baltic men and their own inferiority complex.
      Simply, all their women – mothers, grannies, sisters, girlfriend are dreaming to lead night with strong, tender and so unfishlike russian mujik.
      And thats why talking beaver hate all russians. Its only because he’s stuck up of his mother’s story about long unforgetable nights with the russian seaman. And he can’t reach russians in a bedroom with any girl.
      But don’t give up, beaver! There are many another things where you can prosper, so you can leave your bedroom buisness to noncitizens, they’ll make your wife’s nights warm and sweet ;-)
      Happy NY, don’t give up! Popytaysya derjat’ “hvost” pistoletom!

  19. Marina says:

    “And I am happy to see that the intrigues and political terror of Russia against its miniature Baltic neighbor”

    You silly little boy… Yoy have still so much to learn from life. One of the things I hope you will learn in the reality Peace.

    It was not Russian who committed political terror against the Baltic naighbor, it was the Soviet Union. Russia was just a victim like the any other member of this evil union.

    • talking beaver says:

      -> Marina

      Oh, yeah?

      Russia is as much a victim of USSR as Germany is a victim of the Third Reich.

      Boasting USSR achievements as its own when it suits it, denying any relation to USSR crimes otherwise.

      Even the anthem is kept the same.

      And please do not tell me that Stalin was not Russian at all, but Georgian. I will remind you that old Adolph was Austrian.

      • Marina says:

        talking beaver, are you saying that Germany was not a victim? Are you saying that its citizens the Jews, Romany Gipsies, and ordianry Germans who were killed and repressed were not the victims?

        “Boasting USSR achievements as its own when it suits it”

        Are you saying that Russians liked the USSR? Were do get this information from – the Baltic media? I should have know. Well, if you think that then you must be a very silly peron or just a very bad one, knowing very well that what you say is not true.

        Why you do what you do? What makes you hate so much?

        • Cretux says:

          Boris, I guess you said you live in England. Don’t they mind you saying things like that? I mean criticizing their mass media and politics which currently do not align exactly with Russia interests? British always have been rather conservative. You said you left Russia for good. Still it looks that you have remained patriot of Russia. Does that cause some counter-reaction in your surroundings in UK? Do not you feel like in enemy camp sometimes? Or you just avoid talking about it?

  20. talkin beaver says:

    Oh, yeah?

    Russia is as much a victim of USSR as Germany is a victim of the Third Reich.

    Boasting USSR achievements as its own when it suits it, denying any relation to USSR crimes otherwise.

    Even the anthem is kept the same.

    And please do not tell me that Stalin was not Russian at all, but Gergian. I will remind you that old Adolph was Austrian.

  21. talking beaver says:

    If you want other people to read your opuses, make them shorter.

    No one discriminates Russians in Baltics. It is a legend created by Russian Foreign Office and local Russian “activists”.

    They are just asked to learn local language what they had not done for 50 years. They consider it to be a discrimination – of course they would prefer to have everybody around them talking Russian.

    Stopping to think of Baltic states as of parts of Empire temporarily separated from the main body also would help.

    • Marina says:

      Stop lying through your teeth. Abramov has given you enough evidance and you have not touched on any of them because you have nothing to say that is going to prove the opposite.

      When will all this dangeurus hatefull mentality just leave the good baltic people?

  22. Jacobisahottie says:

    Thats hot.

  23. talking beaver says:

    And who are you, smartass?

  24. talking beaver says:

    -> Akhenathon
    And who are you, smartass, darling?

  25. Animalist says:

    I live in Estonia for my whole life (yes, I was born in the Soviet times and outside Estonia btw) and I am one of those “Russian-speakers”, although I am neither Russian nor Jew. I have an absolutely Slavic name and speak Estonian with a slight accent. I have got Estonian citizenship, and it was not difficult. And you know, Boris, I have never met that “racist propaganda” from the Estonians’ side in the real life. My husband came from Ukraine several years ago – he has no problems with employment or everyday life either, although his Estonian language skills are very modest.

    If you are speaking about the “bronze soldier” – yes, the way it was done was purely provocative toward Russia. I mean Russia, not local Russians. Turn off RTR channel, turn on your brain.

    Have you ever been to Estonia? You are sincerely welcome to see it yourself. Happy New Year!

  26. Paulina says:

    =>Boris Abramov

    “corrupt, crime-ridden country”

    Oh my, it’s not THAT bad ;) She probably went to UK (as many other young people from Poland, including my friend) to get a better paid job (doing the same thing but earning more money).
    Btw, the government in Poland changed (Civic Platform defeated the Law and Justice party) so “the xenophobic campaign”, as you call it, is over ;)

    Greetings from Poland :)

    • Boris Abramov says:

      Although, I have a strong suspension that you, my darling, are in fact Talking Beaver, I shall give you the benefit of the doubt this time :)

      Paulina, yes, Tusk certainly seems to be then lesser of two evils (with reference to the twins :) ), but does he really differ in terms of substance? Has he publicly opposed the Madness that is the US Missile Shield, that is most certainly doomed to head-start yet another Arms Race? After all, we clearly have an unstable man in Washington, and Putins diplomatic abilities do not give me much confidence ether. So perhaps we should judge politicians on their achievements, rather then their beautiful smile of the fantastic PR guy. We made that mistake with Blair before, dont you think? Anyhow, time will tell, but frankly, I wouldnt be too optimistic.

      PS: You have a very nice name, Paulina J

      • Paulina says:

        => Boris Abramov

        I’m not Talking Beaver and I guess I can prove it to you (besides, my English isn’t as good as his ;)) – about discrimination in Estonia:

        http://www.amnesty.org/en/alfresco_asset/e31a36c9-a2f7-11dc-8d74-6f45f39984e5/eur510012007en.html

        http://www.amnesty.org/en/alfresco_asset/aedec693-a426-11dc-bac9-0158df32ab50/eur510022006en.html

        http://www.hrw.org/reports/1994/WR94/Helsinki-08.htm

        http://www.hrw.org/reports/1992/WR92/HSW-03.htm

        If I was him I wouldn’t give those links, right? ;)

        However, I’ve noticed he knows much about history of Poland :). Talking Beaver, greetings for you and Latvia! :)

        Boris, Tusk is so much different than the Kaczynski brothers… Voters and politicians of PO (Civic Platform) and PiS (Law nad Justice) are like the worst enemies :P The last two years strongly divided Poland… I think Tusk and Sikorski (Minister of Foreign Affairs) have different views on the role of USA in our foreign policy than the Kaczynski brothers. Tusk is more pro-European. He wants to get out our soldiers from Iraq as fast as possible (in 2008 I think, though the president wanted to prevent this). As far as the Missile Shield is concerned – I don’t know how it will end. I guess Tusk will try to choose what’s best for Poland. I don’t think this shield presents any danger to Russia, but in the middle of January some Russian experts will come to Poland and will talk about the shield with Poles. This is some kind of progress, I think :).

        Btw, “rafal” (Rafał) sounds like a Polish name, unfortunately…

        “PS: You have a very nice name, Paulina”

        Thank you :) But I don’t like it that much because “Paulina” in Polish sounds serious and diminutive “Paulinka” sounds childish ;).

        Greetings :)

  27. zxc says:

    talking beaver, ты тот ещё еблан. Хочешь, я тебе помогу материально? Купишь себе новую инвалидную коляску. Не стесняйся.

    • talking beaver says:

      -> zxc

      Oh, yeah.

      Here, in nice and familiar, slightly mobishly-violent manner someone named “zxc” threatens me and offers to buy a disabled person wheelchair for me. How cute.

      That’s about time to go around crashing showcases, burning cars and shouting “Russiya! Russiya!” how they did it in Tallinn this spring? Nyet?

  28. H says:

    I’ve heard that kissing in the mouth between men is a custom in Russian culture, as in USA fathers kiss their daughters in their mouth, it has nothing to do with homosexuality.
    Here in Spain if we see a man kissing another man in his mouth we think automatically they are gay, but if they’re kissing on both cheeks we think they are friends, brothers or relatives. Anyway, kissing is most common between women that between men.

    Maybe in Russian culture if a man kisses another man in his mouth people think they are “only” friends or relatives.
    As far as I know during Soviet era (and in all the communist countries) the homosexuality between men or between women was punished. But kissing between men had no sexual connotation. Maybe this has nowadays a sexual connotation.

    I would like to know if this is true. Am I wrong?

  29. RedAssMonkey says:

    Oh, well. Basically agree.

    Just tell me that French or Americans are not nationalists, and that they have a lot of knowledge of other countries…

    Eastern and Central European nationalism is so noticeable mostly because the system has been in forcefully frozen state for 70 to 50 years. After the Soviet block collapsed from internal weakness, stress and pressure, the sparking nationalism issues are the echo from this Big Bang. The “strata” of societies and countries are moving and colliding, trying to come to a standstill. As soon as the system will find its point of dynamic balance, it all will calm down and nationalism will become mild and unnoticeable as it is in Western Europe.

  30. talking beaver says:

    As a matter of fact, you are wrong.

  31. talking beaver says:

    I do not know who you are and where you come from, but I definitely agree that it is better that you stay where you are.

  32. talking beaver says:

    -> Mario

    I do not know who you are and where you come from, but I definitely agree that it is better that you stay where you are.

  33. talking beaver says:

    Oh, yeah.

    Here, in nice and familiar, slightly mobishly-violent manner someone named “zxc” threatens me and offers to buy a disabled person wheelchair for me. How cute.

    That’s about time to go around crashing showcases, burning cars and shouting “Russiya! Russiya!” how they did it in Tallinn this spring? Nyet?

  34. Marina says:

    Boris, he simply cannot. Much like Hitler propaganda everthing he writes is just plain rhetoric without a any factual evidence.

    He will keep on writing racist material until he is evicted. There is simply nothing anyone can do about it. So take your own avdvice, Boris and do not engage verbally with this sad person.

    Your friend,

    Marina

  35. talking beaver says:

    Heh! :)

    Reminds me of the regular Bolshevik practice.

    … First you lie. Then you discredit your opponents. Then you try to silence them by mobbing etc. Finally, when that has not worked, you “evict” them …

    In USSR they “evicted” political opponents mostly by two standard methods: (1) putting bullet into the back of the head in KGB prison basement and burying in unmarked grave, (2) sending to arctic “labor” camp to die from cold and malnutrition and burying in unmarked grave.

    “Where do you want to go today? …”

    P.S. Times change, not the habits, eh? ;)

    • commonman092 says:

      -> Talking Beaver

      How does your average Russian practice what reminds you of “regular Bolshevik practice”?

      I’m just curious to know?

      • talking beaver says:

        -> commonman092

        That was addressed specifically to the Boris Abramov’s Stormtroopers team at this site.

        Boris writes weird political propaganda and disinformation spam. Anyone who tries to disagree is immediately branded Fascist etc and anything he/she says is twisted in the wildest manner. Absolute demagogy and lack of consequence and logic. Any means, including outright lies and forgery, are good to discredit and silence the opponent. And when even that does not help, there comes this “eviction” thing.

        This is what reminded me of how Bolsheviks did it and how other extremists and fanatics use to do it. Especially radical left seem to be notorious for this (forgive me, Comrades).

        Would not be surprised if Boris turns out to be one of those NASHI guys, waging information war for the benefit of Mother Russia.

        “Average Russian” has nothing to do with it. The trouble comes from Boris-like extremists. Unfortunately their stance considerably complies with the official Kremlin position on too many things.

        P.S. That, of course, if only my personal opinion.

  36. talking beaver says:

    –> Marina

    Heh! :)

    Reminds me of the regular Bolshevik practice.

    … First you lie. Then you discredit your opponents. Then you try to silence them by mobbing etc. Finally, when that has not worked, you “evict” them …

    In USSR they “evicted” political opponents mostly by two standard methods: (1) putting bullet into the back of the head in KGB prison basement and burying in unmarked grave, (2) sending to arctic “labor” camp to die from cold and malnutrition and burying in unmarked grave.

    “Where do you want to go today? …”

    P.S. Times change, not the habits, eh? ;)

  37. Hui Lee says:

    Ti DEBIL

  38. talking beaver says:

    –> Marina

    Heh! :)

    Reminds me of the regular Bolshevik practice.

    … First you lie. Then you discredit your opponents. Then you try to silence them by mobbing etc. Finally, when that has not worked, you “evict” them …

    In USSR they “evicted” political opponents mostly by two standard methods: (1) putting bullet into the back of the head in KGB prison basement and burying in unmarked grave, (2) sending to arctic “labor” camp to die from cold and malnutrition and burying in unmarked grave.

    “Where do you want to go today? …”

    P.S. Times change, not the habits, eh? ;)

  39. Texas1 says:

    No, it’s just another example of russian family values.

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