37 Russians and Germans – Brothers Forever

Russians and Germans – Brothers Forever

Posted on April 30, 2007 by


russian priest and nazi officer

Yesterday we had a photo of Russian and Nazi officers posing together being in friendly relations - just before Nazi invaded Russia.

Today someone submitted us a photo from a family archive which was made already during the Nazi invasion to Russia. Russian Orthodox Christian priest and a Nazi German officer looking like old-time pals. Maybe that's because Soviets oppressed church in Russia but Germans came and they started feel themselves free? But Germans were catholics and it was not so easy for them to accept another branch of church. Who knows, too many lies were issued by governments and too much truth was concealed.

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37 Responses to “Russians and Germans – Brothers Forever”

  1. Doug says:

    The priests seem to be wearing military uniform winter coats. The one on the left is smoking a cigarette, I have not seen that before. The German soldier is actually wearing Luftwaffe rank, perhaps a member of the Herman Goering Division.

    • Borah a.k.a. Sarah Levi-Alkolupukki says:

      This photos are from the past, but but fascism is still alive in Estonia!

      http://bronze-soldier.com/gallery/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=85&g2_page=3

      • Borah a.k.a. Sarah Levi-Alkolupukki says:

        Nazism and fascism are glorified in Estonia!

        http://bronze-soldier.com/gallery/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=85&g2_page=1

        • Sarah Abramov says:

          To all Europeans who are against of the revival of Fascism and Nazism in Europe:

          ======================================

          Making business with Estonia you support and finance Nazis.

          You should understand, that making business with Estonia or buying anything produced in Estonia or visiting Estonia as a tourist, you actually support and finance a new generation of European Nazis. Please, spend a couple of minutes to read the letter to the end, because your voice of a free human is very important in preventing the revival of Fascism in the Europe.

          Estonia, which has recently joined to EU and NATO, officially practices Apartheid policies and does its best to rehabilitate and legalize Fascism, for years. EU, US and other democracies preferred not to pay attention on that till now. However, it doesn’t cancel the fact that Estonia carries out a policy of Ethnic Discrimination against ethnic Russians, who constitute a third part of its population. Most of these people were born in this country or live here for 30-40 years, but they were not even provided citizenship and are treated as second class people. Moreover, Estonia officially glorifies legionaries of Hitler’s SS troops that exterminated Jews in Fascist death camps in Estonia during the Holocaust. Government sets up monuments to these Fascist butchers. They are allowed to march in the downtown of the capital, Tallinn. They are invited to official events; the Estonian President shakes their bloody hands, and calls them heroes of Estonia.

          At the same time, Estonian government aggressively fights with any memories of millions of the Soviet soldiers, who paid with their lives to free Europe from the plague of the Fascism and to save dozens millions of Europeans of the death. And democratic countries – first of all EU and US, prefer to dissemble this again. But recently Estonian regime overstepped the limits, which makes it absolutely illegal from the point of view of common human values. On April 26, Estonian authorities have decided to finally erase the memory of the victory of Russian soldiers over the Hitler’s Nazism by destroying the main World War II memorial to a Soviet warrior-rescuer, Bronze Soldier. For those Russians who live in Estonia, demolition of the memorial is not just a removal of some architectonic construction. This is the most painful insult of the memories of their fathers and grandfathers, who died in battle with the Fascism to bring freedom to the Europe.

          Thousands of offended Estonian Russians came to a peaceful protest demonstration, demanding from Estonian officials to stop the vandalism. But instead dialogue Estonian authorities sent special police forces to suppress the protest. With no reason they started to fire in the protesters rubber bullets, water cannon and tear-gas, throw flash-bang grenades, and baton women and teenagers. During the massacre the first ethnic Russian was killed, dozens were injured and hundreds were arrested just because of their Russian ethnicity. Those arrested were thrown into in a harbor warehouse as they were livestock, and there they were beat by police within an inch of their life. Just think – in the heart of the Europe an Apartheid regime kills, injures and arrests hundreds people just because of their ethnicity! However, almost all of the European and American media keep hypocritical silence or even worse call this “pacifying gangs of drung vandals”.

          This is disgrace! This is shame not only on those European and US governments that support this Nazi state. This is shame on every European and American who keeps silence today. Keeps silence, because somewhere inside he or she is confident that rehabilitation of Fascism, and Apartheid crimes committed against those “dirty Russian” at the heart of the European Union, provide “useful lesson” to Russians and Russia. But maybe you think that this is not your business? Then let me remind you a famous phrase by German priest Martin Niemoller he said about Nazis in 1945: “First they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew…. Then they came for me and by that time there was no one left who can speak up for me”. Today, new European Nazis came for the Russians, and the Europeans keep silence or, better to say, silently approve. Well, you can be sure – this is just the beginning, and some day yours home-grown Nazis, inspired by your silence of the crimes of the Estonian Fascism, will come for you. And there will be no one to speak up for you. Because Russians, once rescued the Europe from the Fascism, will never pay again with millions of their lives for those not speaking up today.

          So what can you do? Not too much. But quite enough to stop Nazis. At least don’t finance them. Don’t buy anything produced from Estonia. Don’t do any kind of business with Estonian companies and organizations. Don’t invest in Estonian stocks. Don’t fly to Estonia as a tourist. What else? Maybe, to ask your representative in the House of Representatives, why your government spends your taxes to support Estonian Nazis? Or to forward this letter to your local newspaper and ask them, why they never write about Apartheid in Estonia? Or to call to Estonian embassy in your country, and ask them what is that they think they are doing? Or at least forward this letter to a few friends and colleagues? Your voice CAN prevent revival of Nazism, if you want it.

          • Vernadotte says:

            What kind of subversionist Israeli propaganda is this?

            To contribute personally to the welfare of the world you are so concerned about, Boris, and to improve the lives of people in many countries, I encourage you to take direct action and play in traffic.

    • balti says:

      after WWI, the treaty of versailles banned germany from having an airforce or any tanks. this was mainly due to france’s interest in keeping it’s archenemy weak, arguably in order to oppress it’s neigbour, as it happened i.e. when they invaded the Ruhrgebiet later on. never again should there be a war coming from germany, is i think what the treaty roughly states.

      the germans and the soviet union where both outlaws at the time, so they would collaborate in their isolation. germany would export know-how to the technologically backward CSSR and send troops over to train there on tanks and airplanes.

      during that time a lot of fliegervereine and sportvereine where founded, where people would fly gliders, which where not banned by the treaties, and do sports. these where effectively military training facilities undermining the treaty of versailles.

      this tradition continued.

      the german concentration camps where at first spin offs of the soviet gulags. SS-officers where sent to russia for internships in the gulags in order to learn how to set up and organize such camps.

      by the way not all germans are catholic… in fact martin luther was “german” and the nazis wheren’t particularly religious.

      that’s all i roughly remember from my german high school history classes :P

  2. Ivanytch says:

    Heh-heh… :) Priests do not smoke, dude! :) This is definitely a fake.

    • Borah a.k.a. Sarah Levi-Alkolupukki says:

      Yes, priests are forbidden to smoke. That’s a fake.

      • Pacific NW says:

        They’re forbidden from molesting children too, that doesn’t stop them.

        • illlich says:

          you’re thinking of CATHOLIC priests– ORTHODOX priests are required to be married before being granted a chruch/parish, so no pedophilia for them.

          I was raised Russian Orthodox (in America), and knew several priests who smoked.

  3. Darek from Poland says:

    The Nazists (national socialists – members of National Socialit German Labour Party NSDAP) did appear as big movement in 30thies of XXc.. Formerly they were small group of ideologists.

    As I see this photo was made before or just after WWI. If after so it was rather made abroad of Russia (Russia and Germany had lost the common border; in hot revolutionary times in Russia it was rathr immposible to exhibit crucifix or other religious symbols).

  4. Humanoid says:

    In Hans-Ulrich Rudel’s ‘Stuka Pilot’ autobiography, he noted that the local Russians were surprised by the religious freedom they enjoyed under German occupation. They took their religious icons out of storage and displayed them. I guess they had to hide them once more when the Germans retreated.

    • Darek from Poland says:

      During WWI Tzar lost his power to govern Russia and quasi-democratic government was established. Few months later Bolshevicks saized the power and some symbols of tradition were demolished with a revolutionary passion.
      There were still WWI.
      So if Germans retreated after lost war there wasn’t return of religonism but a new ‘quality’ of terror has appeared in Soviet Russia (and next USSR).

  5. kori says:

    As I know, many russians, who suffered under the oppression and dictatorship of Stalin regarded Germans as liberators. They enjoyed some kind of freedom which wasn’t giben before. Of course they didn’t know anything about Nazi ideologies. And later on Stalin succeeded to get their support for the war against the Germans, since the war was represented as a war for their homeland, and not for communism.

    • Uwe says:

      I can only agree with what kori and Anna have been saying here.
      I am German,my family lived in Ukraine,when Hitler´s army invaded the SovietUnion in 1941.My grandmother told me,that when the Germans first came into the cities and villages,they were seen as liberators from communism and localpeople were waiting in the streets to give flowers to the soldiers.
      But this changed very quickly,when the Nazis started to establish thier terror regime in these occupied parts of the Soviet Union.
      So,this photo can possibly be from the early days of WW II.

  6. fabricio says:

    maybe you are forgetting nazis were not catholic, even christians, there´s no cristhian base in nazism, rather than a mix of several believes, paganism, mysticism, esoterics, and primitives forms of christianism, facts thats could close them to orthodox church more than the catholics ones.
    by the other hand, i dont believe in the middle of the war a priest give some importance to smoking or not.

    • Anna says:

      In the middle of the war it was not important was it really a priest or not, it could be just a drunk man with a stolen cross on his neck pictured by nazi to use as propaganda.

    • Sarah Abramov says:

      and primitives forms of christianism, facts thats could close them to orthodox church more than the catholics ones

      —————————-

      Comon! Catholicism is the worst brunch of Christianity ever!

      1. Cristian Wars in the middle age.
      2. Oppressions on Jews.
      3. Indulgentions.
      4. The Pope is sinless.

      During WW2 Catholics were on Nazi Fascist side. Catholicism is the worst brunch of Christianity and Catholicism discredited Christianity itself.

      • fabricio says:

        i agree. catholics support nazis via Mussolini´s and Franco’s fascio, but Nevertheless nazi´s were not catholic.
        most of times catholics support the worst aberrations of humanity and to your list i would add all the crimes against humanity in south and centroamerica, from the conquest with the hole extermination of various ethnic groups till present with the support of military governments.

        • Darek from Poland says:

          I don’t advocate for evident crimes in America in XV and XVI c.. But cultures of Aztecs and Mays were related with horror cult murders. It wasn’t culture as in christian Europa (in fact, China, Hindoo, Arab, Africa etc. culture wasn’t similiar to the most humanitarian Europe).
          As I know many Indians wanted to be a christian when they hear it’s a belive in God who loves and who don’t want their children must be sacrified.

      • Robert says:

        Darek, many people in Poland were on the right side; I’m not using right side as a euphamism here – they had to kill Germans in order to destroy Nazism, it’s life.

        Many Catholic Poles worked to arm the Jewish resistance in the ghetto and got many of those who were being murdered to freedom, Poles, Jews, whoever. However, the Vatican, the heart of the Roman Catholic church, had a little deal with the Nazis and gave many of them a direct route to Argentina after the war and didn’t exactly condemn the Nazis when what they were doing came out in 1942.

        • Robert says:

          Maybe the Pope was a nice bloke, but why were Nazis allowed into Roman Catholic Italy and via the Roman Catholic Church into Argentina?

          Say what you like about individuals, but what happened happened. The same as the Swiss were ‘neutral’, but in reality they were anything but.

      • Tara says:

        Sara Abramov, you have proven yourself to be a 14-year old child without the slightest idea of what you’re talking about.

        “During WW2 Catholics were on Nazi Fascist side”
        WRONG! try again!

        Anyway, if you like, I can give you a long list of Jewish atrocities. Let’s start a long time ago…

        Joshua 10:40, for example, sums up the Hebrew conquest of Canaan as follows: “So Joshua defeated the whole land … He left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded.”

        In I Samuel 15:3 we find the Hebrew prophet Samuel relaying God’s order to exterminate the Amalekites, because their ancestors had opposed the Israelites centuries before: “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”

        Ezekiel 9:5-7: “Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.”

        There are LOTS more of these references to Jewish atrocities.

        When you grow up, please think about this before you declare Catholicism to be the worst religion.

  7. William says:

    There is no doubt that this photo is fake.
    I think the German Luftwaffe soldier is dead, and has been
    posed with the fake preist just for laughs.
    Why wouldn’t the German’s eyes have been open?
    I think the priests are most Cossack fighters dressed as priests.

  8. Liisa says:

    Aaah… I see. So I guess it was easy for Russians and Germans – big brothers and eternal friends as they have always been – to come together and casually share the lesser European countries behind a glass of German beer and Russian vodka. What nice frienship! I am of course talking about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact – a discredit for both countries…

  9. illlich says:

    we are all brothers, whether we like it or not.

    • Boris Abramov says:

      I really hope people can understand that before its too late!!

      You always make intelligent comments illich, you should do it more often.. :)

  10. swiebertje says:

    Please don’t say anything about history, guys. This is embarassing.

  11. hck says:

    Hey, that’s okay. No worries. It’s normal. Just like Putin and Schröder. Especially when Putin will become the director of Gazprom…

  12. Ivan Minic says:

    Are you sure this is Russia and not (ex) Yugoslavia?

  13. Pierre-André says:

    not all german soldiers were nazi…

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  17. Claus Oreskov says:

    Do not be so naive. Russian Orthodox priests were notorious in the past for their alcohol abuse – I wonder if they smoke when it suited them?

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