94 Buran, The First Russian Shuttle

Buran, The First Russian Shuttle

Posted on September 14, 2006 by team


Did you know that there was a space shuttle built in Russia, which has made a few successful flights but then the research project was closed due to lack of funding after the collapse of Soviet Union?

The BURAN orbiter was the first reusable manned space vehicle in Russia. The BURAN orbiter is the space airplane which may descent from an orbit and land to an airdrome. The BURAN was Russian first vehicle capable not only to put pay-loads into Space, but also to provide their orbit maintenance and repair as well as return to the Earth.

The BURAN predecessors could execute only separate roles: VOSTOK and SOYUS vehicles were intended only for crew flights, PROGRESS - for cargo delivery onto the orbital station. Put into the orbit by a rocket carrier of the average size they had modest transport potentials. Whereas the cargo flow on the Earth-orbit line increased and the development of a reusable vehicles of large carrying capacity has become inevitable. 
 


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The BURAN orbiter is able to put up to 30 tons into Space and to return up to 20 tons of payload to the Earth.
The availability of a cargo compartment of impressive sizes on the vehicle permits to transport orbital station modules or large structures up to 17 m long and 4,5 m in diameter and not only 2-4 crew members but up to 6 passengers can be accommodated in a crew cabin.
 
 
Expendable space vehicles perform a ballistic or sliding descent in the atmosphere and parachute landing. The necessity to provide a space vehicle return from the Space and to bring it to the airdrome forced the designers to decide many complex problems.
The gliding descent from the orbit through dense layers of atmosphere has stipulated the necessity to use a principally new reusable thermal protection system designed to sustain 100 flights. For the BURAN orbiter three kinds of thermal protection have been developed:
 
- "carbon-carbon" material with maximum operating temperature up to 1650 degrees C for the components with the highest thermal load -the fuselage nose and wing leading edge,
- ceramic tiles for parts heating up to 1250 degrees C,
- flexible material for surface parts with the temperature not higher than 379 degrees C.
All of them surpassed by strength the materials used in the USA Space Shuttle construction.
 
buran vs usa shuttle

The main differences between the space aeroplane Buran and Suttle-orbiter are follows:
- the automatic landing of Buran from orbit onto airdrome;
- the absence ot the main rocket engine on the orbital aeroplane. The main engine was placed onto a central block of a carrier-rocket ENERGIA which is able to launch into an orbit 120 tonns of payload against 30 tonns for Space Shuttle;
- the hight lift-drag ratio of the space aeroplane Buran is 6.5 against 5.5 for Space Shuttle;
- the space aeroplane Buran returned 20 tonns of payloads against 15 tonns for Space Shuttle orbiter from an orbit to an aerodrome;
- the cutting lay-out pattern of thermoprotection tiles of Buran is optimal and longitudinal slits of tile belts are orthogonal to the flow line. Sharp angles of tiles are absent. The tile belts of the Buran fuselage and fin have an optimal position.
buran, the first russian shuttle space ship
 

buran, the first russian shuttle space ship

On the photos you can see how the shuttle Buran was transported by the biggest сargo airplane in the world, AN-225 "Mriya". 

 

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94 Responses to “Buran, The First Russian Shuttle”

  1. Helen says:

    Это не тот Буран, что теперь аттракцион в Парьке Горького?

  2. vasily says:

    second video is same as the first one

  3. Matteo says:

    Is this the same story like the Tupolev TU-144 which was a clone of the Concord? ;-)

    • Harry says:

      TU-144, felw its first commercial flight a year earlier that the Concord, so, the Concord is a clone of the Tupolev :) Forget about the cliches, as you can see, the Buran was a little bit a lot different and better than the Shuttle.

      • Sam says:

        Umm, no, the Tu-144 cloned the Concorde, Western Certification took longer, and we didn’t work construction crews 24 hours a day building it.

        How did that moon trip work out? Every get the rockets to fire correctly?

  4. Xavi says:

    First of all I’d like to congratulate you for such a cool blog !

    I’m a guy from Barcelona who is living in Omsk. Really enjoying to read something about Russia from another point of view (so alike to mine).

    On Google Earth you could take a look on a Buran shuttle which nowadays is exhibited in Moscow city center.

    The coordinates are: 55º43’44” North / 37º35’48” East

    PS: vasily is right, second video is the same. However, better to watch these and other Buran videos on youtube.

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  6. Gordo says:

    Soviet spies must have infiltrated NASA.

  7. Braad Spitt says:

    @Xavi:
    yeah, Google Earth is one of the coolest things on the web!!
    Here’s a direct link to your coordinates on Google Maps.

    This is where my house lives! :)

  8. W. Shedd says:

    Keep up the good work – an excellent collection of photos of Buran. Should make note of the fact that the Buran never had it’s life support systems installed and its only flight was unmanned. There was another unmanned flight scheduled for 1993 which never occurred. All in all, it was quite a good engineering achievement, even if it was never fully realized.

    Should also mention that the Энергия (Energia) rocket was the most powerful that the Soviet Union ever developed, and second in power and liftoff capabilities only to the old US Saturn V.

  9. W. Shedd says:

    http://www.buran.ru/htm/pilots.htm Some people might find this interesting also

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  11. LEVON says:

    To those who say that it was clone of concorde stolen from NASA, Ieven if it was stolen, read the part about differences, it was better then “chellenger” space shuttle from any point of view. Actuallu “chellenger” just blew up one day, and “Buran” still exists.
    “Buran” project was stopped no because of soviet union falling apart, but because of unrentability. Space shuttle technology costs to US far more than “Progress” technology for russia. Still “Progress” is the most relyable spacecraft in the world.

    • Chris says:

      Levon, not to be mean, but the comment about the “”Challenger” just blew up one day, and the “Buran” still exists” is mean, and like comparing apples to oranges. The Challenger and her crews made multiple trips to space, the Buran never took a crew to space.

  12. will says:

    another big problem about buran was that the heat shield wasn’t replacable. unlike the tile lined underbelly of the US Shuttle, buran had those glued on strips…..another main reason the Buran was never launched a second time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_cosmonauts

    • John says:

      True, the Buran Tiles dis not resist the heat as planned. Some parts of the aluminium structure did melt during reentry. For a second flight the general structure would have to be modified.
      Luckily nobody was onboard during the near-fail reentry.

  13. Futurismic says:

    Defunct Russian Shuttle…

    Well, who’d have thought? I for one was completely unaware that the Russians once had a close equivalent to the space shuttle, which may in fact have been superior in some respects. Of course, the difference between the two that……

  14. Carl says:

    Wow, it was only launched once? What a waste, and cool your jets (pardon the pun) Levon, no one insulted your precious shuttle.

  15. Brian says:

    The really interesting part about Buran was that the Sovs slavisly copied the gross characteristics that made Shuttle shuch an iffy vehicle.

    Wings for the prime example. The wings were a design comprimise forced on NASA by the Air Force for cross range capability for an orbital flight. Absent the polar orbit there simply isn’t a reason to haul wings up to orbit.

    Location of Buran and it’s fuel tank for another. Excellent idea to locate your crew next to the fuel so in case of catastrophic failure the crew compartment is vaporized and not thrown clear, as it would be if the vehicle were mounted above the tank.

    I swear you’d think Shuttle was part of a vast conspiracy to bankrupt the Soviet Union. The diff being that we could afford such blunders, the Soviets not so much.

  16. chihpih says:

    Russian scientists & engineers were / are superiour to American counterparts but were / are unable to develop a lot of their ideas due to lack of funding!

  17. Brian says:

    Russian scientists & engineers were / are superiour to American counterparts but were / are unable to develop a lot of their ideas due to lack of funding!

    Saying Russian (or Soviet) engineers are better than their American counterparts is a useless comparison. By your own admission they lacked and lack the ability to translate the brilliant ideas into real world projects where their brilliance can be proven.

    It’s in the real world where brilliant engineering happens, not on paper.

    Not y’all fault of course – you’d been set up for failure, which is a damned shame.

    • Joe H says:

      Yeah, we know, we know. Americans invented everything. Everyone else just copies American stuff. Like Sputnik for instance.

      You just cannot stand the idea that someone else in the world might do something better than you . . . well, not YOU exactly, but, you know, an American, and that’s as good as if you had done it yourself.

      The US lost its scientific and technological superiority a long time ago. You’ve lost most of your manufacturing, and your economy is in shambles. China now supplies most of your manufactured goods now, and most of your new financing. Soon the entire US will be owned by China. Hope you’re practicing your Mandarin.

      But I admit that America is number 1. Number 1 in exploiting the rest of the world, number 1 in starting unprovoked wars, number 1 in killing, torture, secret trials, secret jails, secret “renditions,” number 1 in health care . . . oh, sorry, that should be number 80, number 1 in business and government corruption, number 1 in waste, number 1 in energy use and greenhouse gas emissions.

      And of course, the US is definitely number 1 in telling the rest of the world how it doesn’t measure up to ‘merka.

      • johnsky says:

        lol.

        Yeah, the US can be a bad investment at times.

        Accumulated, the US is owned by Canada, EU, Japan, Saudi Arabia, and China.

        But don’t tell the Americans that… shhhhh… they still haven’t realised their version of capitalism means they were for sale.

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  20. Mike says:

    Oddly enough the Buran’s areodynamics were a direct copy of the U.S. Space Shuttle. Nice work!

  21. getreal says:

    A clear ripoff of the American shuttle. Russians couldn’t ‘develop’ technology they didn’t steal first. Don’t feel insulted though, you are in good company with the likes of Japanese, look at them now, they can actualy create better stuff than the Americans. But they had to engage in serious industrial spying and stealing to get there. So let’s thank the KGB for this shuttle, or a bribed government contractor. There is nothing brilliant about stealing other designs, hence in this case their wasn’t any ‘brilliant’ engineering to talk of and resources have nothing to do with it – get real people.

    • MarcT says:

      Getreal should really get his/her facts straight, because you really haven´t a clue. Not really your fault as you´re the product of a brainwashed megalomanic society, puffed upo by it´s own importance. Einstein and Werner von Braun are two of a huge list of “stolen” technological leaps not attributable solely to “America”, and remember, incidentally, to be truly “American” an idea would have to be from a native of the country…but that´s an unending topic of its own, now isn´t it!?

      Think about these:

      Spain built the first submarine;
      China had municipal drains 5000 years ago;
      The French enforced Democracy invented by the Greeks;
      Baseball comes from cricket and American football from rugby;
      American english is not your own creation;

      Shall I go on or do you humbly admit to being shallow and uniformed?

      • Harry says:

        The first gyrocopter (primitive kind of helicopter), was designed and built by a spanish engineer – Juan de la Cierva. The first american autocannon was, in fact, a licenced copy of a spanish Hispano Suiza HS.404 autocannon.

        Colour TV was invented in Mexico, and first commercial emmisions were made in germany during 1936 olympics.

        By the way, Sikorsky was RUSSIAN.

  22. I’m pretty sure that one of the Buran fleet ended up in Sydney, Australia, as a tourist attraction.
    Not many people went to see it though and it was onsold somewhere else.

  23. ben says:

    you all need to shutup (the americans and the russians) and go design the next generation (after this dumb orion craft) spacecraft.

    we basically need a nuclear reactor cooled by space.

    figure out how to pressurize it and let’s go … some of the nuclear submarine heat dissipation solutions should be cross transferrable.

    maybe a quantum reactor of some sort?

    worldpeace,
    ben

  24. Anton says:

    >Russians couldn’t ‘develop’ technology they didn’t steal first.

    May I know where did Russians steal the technology of the first space ship in the world? Maybe from some aliens?
    Robbed some unlucky UFO, he-he.. :)

  25. Brian says:

    May I know where did Russians steal the technology of the first space ship in the world?

    The Germans, actually. But you knew this.

  26. Brian says:

    you all need to shutup (the americans and the russians) and go design the next generation (after this dumb orion craft) spacecraft.

    Some of us are doing just that.

  27. sobaka says:

    When I was in living in Moscow in the early 90’s the poor old Buran was an attraction at Gorki Park. I can remember if kids could clomb on it but basically it was a gutted out hull.

  28. 4emist says:

    TU-144 has not been stolen from concord, u should know

  29. Brian says:

    TU-144 has not been stolen from concord, u should know

    All engineering is in some respects borrowed – we none of us work in isolation.

  30. W. Shedd says:

    All this nonsense about “stealing technology” is getting out of hand. A big part of engineering is sometimes just seeing that something can be done. This is called “reverse engineering”. It is much easier to reverse engineer something made in the US than something made in the former CCCP. The Soviet Union did a much better job of shrouding their technology from prying eyes.

    The Soviet Union (and now Russians) have a superior rocket and missle technology to the United States for at least 50 years. Some of that is due to the old adage “their Germans were better than our Germans” but men like Konstantin Tsiolkovskiy and Sergei Pavlovich Korolev existed before and independently of their German counterparts.

    Russian missle technology and anti-ballistic missle technology continue to surpass US technology. So how are they stealing American ideas?

    There is a great deal of ignorance in the US regarding the former Soviet Union and Russia. You would be wise to be not among the ignorant and do a little fact checking before dismissing Buran out of hand. As was pointed out, even NASA sees that the Space Shuttle program was a costly boondoggle and that reusable rentry vehicles aren’t really as cost effective as they might appear – as least not yet.

  31. natrium42 says:

    Article is a bit incorrect. Buran only made one space flight (one orbit) instead of “a few” as you state. Additionaly the US Shuttle is now capable to land automatically with the addition of a special cable; see article http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/060629_newtools.html

  32. LEVON says:

    and cool your jets (pardon the pun) Levon, no one insulted your precious shuttle.

    I just dont like when somebodey shows just “one side of medal”.
    As a matter of fact we all should agree what is beeing buil in military labs In US, Russia and China(remember Huangyangtan mistery?). Also when analising the history we see, that a big part of modern technology, from microvawes to nuc bombs was invented in germany, or because of germany and WW II.

    P.S. as there is no gravitation in space the regular pen does not operate there. NASA spend 20 years, and bilions of dollas, while invented a pan wich is able to opereate in space(you can buy it in numerious TV shops). And some CNN or something reporter told a russian astronaut about this and asked how do the russians soled this problem. Astronaut said:
    _ -well, we use a pencil.

  33. wadz says:

    One fact not mentioned: One main reason the Program was cancelled was that the storage building for the shuttles roof collapsed upon it damaging it enough they didn’t have the money to repair it. By this time they didn’t have the money to fly it either, but still, it was a nail in the coffin. Also, Russia didn’t tell the wider world for at least 2 years afterwards.

  34. Anton says:

    >The Germans, actually. But you knew this.

    To think that is the same as think Americans stole the first a-bomb technology from the same Germans. There are too much difference between some experimental data seized in faschist labs and practically fulfilled project.

  35. domelhor.net says:

    Fotos e vdeos do Buran, o Space Shuttle Sovitico…

    A Unio Sovitica desenvolvou um lanador para envio de pessoas e carga para rbita terrestre que chegou a voar mas que foi abandonado aps o desmembramento da Unio. Qualquer semelhana com o Space Shuttle no coincidncia ;)…

  36. Les says:

    As far as technology being stolen from one side or another, the fact is most of these technologies could not have been built without help from the countless other ” little technologies ” developed over mankind’s history.
    Watch the old British Tv series Connections and Connections 2 ,these 2 series will give you an idea of that.
    Even the atom bomb could not have been finished without the help of TNT ( Nobel was the father of modern explosives ) dentonator caps, capacitors, cathode ray tubes (crt’s), etc, etc.
    So every little advancement in human enginneering is built upon by other peoples contributions.
    Where the genius comes from is in knowing how to apply what has been developed so far and twisting it, the old saying ” necessity is the mother of invention ” comes to mind, to suit one’s pursuit.

    Oh and by the way I do like Russian tech for it’s ability to do what is required and leave out all the bells and whistles. The less to go wrong the better, work with what you have and make it better or simpler to use or repair.
    This coming from a Canuk tool and diemaker of Boeing & automotive experience.

  37. Anton says:

    >Then one day that wonderful superior country ceased to exist. Ironic, isn’t it?

    Nothing ironic, just the fate of all wonderful and superior in this world. All outstanding die one day, mediocrity lives forever. The USSR was an outstanding power, modern Russia is just a mediocre bourgeois state as same as most states in the world.

  38. Anton says:

    >It has far more Nobel prizes for science, and much more important it has been far more successful in delivering technology to people than Russia

    I completely agree with the last statement in this phrase. That’s right! And yes I give America credit for first landing men on the moon.

    So let me repeat the propaganda I hear since my childhood days – it’s not worse than one you hear since your childhood days :)

  39. Arthur says:

    In 2002 the Buran was in Sidney, on display:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20021209113356/http://www.meniscus.net/buran/

    Later it was sold, and shipped, and was stranded in Bahrain:
    http://suzymchale.com/kosmonavtka/buran.html

  40. Durandal says:

    >Nothing ironic, just the fate of all wonderful and superior in this world. All outstanding die one day, mediocrity lives forever. The USSR was an outstanding power, modern Russia is just a mediocre bourgeois state as same as most states in the world.

  41. Durandal says:

    >Nothing ironic, just the fate of all wonderful and superior in this world. All outstanding die one day, mediocrity lives forever. The USSR was an outstanding power, modern Russia is just a mediocre bourgeois state as same as most states in the world.

    In what way do you think that USSR was outstanding compared to the USA? USSR was in many ways better then what Russians had before, but compared to the West the USSR wasn’t too impressive. There was nothing wonderful about that economically backward dictatorship. They had a strong military, I will grant you that. In early years of space exploration they were ahead of the Americans. In almost everything else, Western nations were superior, often by a great deal.

    As for the American atomic bomb, it wasn’t stolen from the Germans the way the USSR stole it from the Americans. Two scientists (one of them was Albert Einstein), who knew that the Germans were investigating uranium and nuclear reactions wrote a letter to the US president and asked him to start a nuclear weapons program. No actual technology was stolen from the Germans, the Americans had start from zero.

    Link
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein-Szil%C3%A1rd_letter

    • lucas says:

      technology was stolen by the americans during the closing weeks of the war from several places, including te labrynth of a underground Rocket Factory and several labs. one of whcih was the first nuclear reactor that failed due to highly unbalanced Amounts of U-32. the way the german scientists had descided to balance quantities required tons of U-32 that simply does not exist. after this was discovered by americans the US scientist chose the only other way which was to use Grams of U-32. i consider this to be stolen technology because the US scientists did not have a reactor and where headed down the same route the germans took, after seeing their results the americans took the other option.

  42. hazzamanazz says:

    Just a note to those who don’t know cold war history: besides everything you can say about Soviet Union technology, Buran was a copy of the US Space Shuttle, that’s true.

    But Buran flewed to space by remote control (radio), something the americans never do it!
    And they try until today to do so, but never been able to.

  43. John P. says:

    One note about the BURAN. It was too have EXTERNAL hookups for the Cosmonauts, so they could work outside longer.

    If either nation ( USA or Russia) have any vision, we would builr a REAL space station in the USA, and use the ENERGIA booster to get it into orbit.

  44. Anton says:

    I’d say “Russian engineers have seen an American shuttle before they begun their project” and “they knew what is it intending for”. Only those two statements can be derived from the open information about both projects, Russian and American.

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  48. Lada says:

    If you want more information in english/french you can go here:
    http://en.buran.fr

  49. Lada says:

    If you want more informations on Buran in english/french you can go here:

    http://en.buran.fr

  50. Обычный человек says:

    The Shuttle is copied from the Buran.

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  52. adil says:

    who says,russians has not able to reach any mileston?i think after collapse of cccp,russia is now ready to re start his travel to new skies.i don`t know about current progress about buran project,but i still believe on that the russia has secret sapace programe to beat any challange from usa.if china successful test their capability to destroy orbital settlite,from the tech, borroing from russia,so russians might be far mor advanced from china!!!.my name is zafar,karachi.pakistan,pro cccp,russian

  53. Kyle Dailey says:

    I watched a tv about the Buran a few years back, and it said the Buran could launch 2 atomic bomb from orbit and return to USSR. After thinking about that again, I was wondering if that was even true.

  54. Scott says:

    The Russians invited the first space shuttle; they started their program in the late 1960’s, the Americans started the mid 1970’s.

    The Russians have and continue to big the best space crafts in the world, there is no question. It is the best with the best engineers without the waste less US spending they spend on their engineers.

    I am an American and can speak for Russians and Russian technology as I have study Russian history British and American history at Oxford University.

    If you don’t know, go visit Russian and visit the space museums and compared what the Russians have and done compared to the Americans. I am not impressed with the US Discovery Shuttle or the American Shuttle project, they Russians build every we have but better.

    All the landmarks were done by the Russian, we just visited the moon, remember the Russian’s orbited it before we landed on the moon.

    • Ivan says:

      [quote]I am an American and can speak for Russians and Russian technology as I have study Russian history British and American history at Oxford University.

      If you don’t know, go visit Russian and visit the space museums and compared what the Russians have and done compared to the Americans. I am not impressed with the US Discovery Shuttle or the American Shuttle project, they Russians build every we have but better. [/quote]

      LOL

  55. Kyle Dailey says:

    Scott, you aren’t an American. I can tell by they way you talk…for exsample, “I am not impressed with the US Discovery Shuttle or the American Shuttle project, they Russians build every we have but better.” Yeh, that’s not even close to ‘Bad American English’. Don’t you know how many Shuttles we, meaning you and I, American’s have? Forget it. By the date on these posts, nobody reads this. I just hope we never have a cold war again. Please don’t pray, do real stuff to help make the world a better place.

  56. western says:

    I just want that everybody distinguish Russia from the Soviet Union.
    Soviet Union was 250 million population, but current Russia is just a part of it, claimed itself an ancestor of USSR.
    Huge amount of the work on this project was done in the parts of USSR which are not Russia now. Missile and aircraft capacity of USSR was (and sufficiently still be) located in Ukraine.

  57. western says:

    Population of USSR was almost 300 millions, nowdays Russia has less then half of it (143). It is not correct to say that Soviet Union was “Russia”, the same as not correct to say that EU is Germany.

  58. pp3 says:

    russia was first in space russia was first on moon russia will be first on mars thats the truth

  59. Scott says:

    The Russians invited the first space shuttle, they started their program in the late 1960s, the Americans started the mid 1970s.

    The Russians have and continue to big the best space crafts in the world, there is no question. It is the best with the best engineers without the waste less US spending they spend on their engineers.

    I am an American and can speak for Russians and Russian technology as I have studied Russian, British and American history at Oxford University. Remember, who came to the US like a big baby to tell the US about the Iron Curtain in 1947?

    If you dont know, go visit Russia and visit the space museums and compared that what the Russians have done to the Americans. I am not impressed with the US Discovery Shuttle nor the American Shuttle project, the Russians build their first shuttle version in 1967, it was smaller than the Buran but it was a rocket booster like the Energia Buran which way before the US shuttle in 1975.

    All the landmarks were done by the Russian, the US only visited the moon, remember the Russians orbited it before we landed on the moon and they landed a probe on their before the US did in 1966. They also landed a probe on Venus back in back in 1965. They bult the first space orbital station in 1971, the US was 1973. The list goes on
    but it is clear that NASA is going broke in today’s space
    race.

    If any of you heard the News on CoasttoCoast radio last month October with George Noory about the 50th anniversary on the space race Sputnik, NASA is going bankrupt and does not have the funds to complete the International Space Station as Russia was suppose to complete 40% of the station as they are planning their moon space station for 2015 on top of that. They may either need to help the complete the station or the station will go into limbo without the Russians to fix the US contract to finish it. The US Space shuttle is an outdated program that even the X-43 program went bankrupt and the US shuttle is just too expensive. A shuttle that takes a crew of 5 people to operate where the Russia space shuttle can fly unmanned and also dismantle its wings in space and attaching into the space station as a counterpart to the station. The Russians have flow more manned space missions that the numbers are impossible to beat that even the current Soyuz rocket has an 95% prefect record (has flown more than 520 missions). I just find it interesting when Russia was in the down in the 90s but they still preformed their space missions and building nuclear arsenals but now they regained their superpower status again officially when it is expensive to improve military capability and continue space flights, how did they do it?

    Is the Space Station a Money Pit? Russia to fill US space flights for the US Space Station completion contract because a lot of funding on NASA

    NASA a ticking collapse

    The US is on an economic plunge as many of us can admit this, not just housing, high gas prices and bad inflation rates but our country is falling where Russia is greatly improving. You see our problems with immigrations and corporations continuing to outsource for cheaper labor overseas because the US labor is too expensive, we cant even afford to fix our immigration problems not just the borders but the internal problems. What is unique about Russia is they dont have an immigration problem at all, everyone who is not a Russian citizen has to have an entry visa, everyone and anything.

  60. Scott says:

    The Russians invited the first space shuttle, they started their program in the late 1960s, the Americans started the mid 1970s.

    The Russians have and continue to big the best space crafts in the world, there is no question. It is the best with the best engineers without the waste less US spending they spend on their engineers.

    I am an American and can speak for Russians and Russian technology as I have studied Russian, British and American history at Oxford University. Remember, who came to the US like a big baby to tell the US about the Iron Curtain in 1947?

    If you dont know, go visit Russia and visit the space museums and compared that what the Russians have done to the Americans. I am not impressed with the US Discovery Shuttle nor the American Shuttle project, the Russians build their first shuttle version in 1967, it was smaller than the Buran but it was a rocket booster like the Energia Buran which way before the US shuttle in 1975.

    All the landmarks were done by the Russian, the US only visited the moon, remember the Russians orbited it before we landed on the moon and they landed a probe on their before the US did in 1966. They also landed a probe on Venus back in back in 1965. They bult the first space orbital station in 1971, the US was 1973. The list goes on
    but it is clear that NASA is going broke in today’s space
    race.

    If any of you heard the News on CoasttoCoast radio last month October with George Noory about the 50th anniversary on the space race Sputnik, NASA is going bankrupt and does not have the funds to complete the International Space Station as Russia was suppose to complete 40% of the station as they are planning their moon space station for 2015 on top of that. They may either need to help the complete the station or the station will go into limbo without the Russians to fix the US contract to finish it. The US Space shuttle is an outdated program that even the X-43 program went bankrupt and the US shuttle is just too expensive. A shuttle that takes a crew of 5 people to operate where the Russia space shuttle can fly unmanned and also dismantle its wings in space and attaching into the space station as a counterpart to the station. The Russians have flow more manned space missions that the numbers are impossible to beat that even the current Soyuz rocket has an 95% prefect record (has flown more than 520 missions). I just find it interesting when Russia was in the down in the 90s but they still preformed their space missions and building nuclear arsenals but now they regained their superpower status again officially when it is expensive to improve military capability and continue space flights, how did they do it?

    Is the Space Station a Money Pit? Russia to fill US space flights for the US Space Station completion contract because a lot of funding on NASA
    http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1632890,00.html

    NASA a ticking collapse
    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2007/10/09.html

    The US is on an economic plunge (a recession leading to a depression) as many of us can admit this, not just housing, high gas prices and bad inflation rates but our country is falling where Russia is greatly improving. You see our problems with immigrations and corporations continuing to outsource for cheaper labor overseas because the US labor is too expensive, we cant even afford to fix our immigration problems not just the borders but the internal problems. What is unique about Russia is they dont have an immigration problem at all, everyone who is not a Russian citizen has to have an entry visa, everyone and anything.

  61. Scott says:

    The Russians invited the first space shuttle, they started their program in the late 1960s, the Americans started the mid 1970s.

    The Russians have and continue to big the best space crafts in the world, there is no question. It is the best with the best engineers without the waste less US spending they spend on their engineers.

    I am an American and can speak for Russians and Russian technology as I have studied Russian, British and American history at Oxford University. Remember, who came to the US like a big baby to tell the US about the Iron Curtain in 1947?

    If you dont know, go visit Russia and visit the space museums and compared that what the Russians have done to the Americans. I am not impressed with the US Discovery Shuttle nor the American Shuttle project, the Russians build their first shuttle version in 1967, it was smaller than the Buran but it was a rocket booster like the Energia Buran which way before the US shuttle in 1975.

    All the landmarks were done by the Russian, the US only visited the moon, remember the Russians orbited it before we landed on the moon and they landed a probe on their before the US did in 1966. They also landed a probe on Venus back in back in 1965. They bult the first space orbital station in 1971, the US was 1973. The list goes on
    but it is clear that NASA is going broke in today’s space
    race.

    If any of you heard the News on CoasttoCoast radio last month October with George Noory about the 50th anniversary on the space race Sputnik, NASA is going bankrupt and does not have the funds to complete the International Space Station as Russia was suppose to complete 40% of the station as they are planning their moon space station for 2015 on top of that. They may either need to help the complete the station or the station will go into limbo without the Russians to fix the US contract to finish it. The US Space shuttle is an outdated program that even the X-43 program went bankrupt and the US shuttle is just too expensive. A shuttle that takes a crew of 5 people to operate where the Russia space shuttle can fly unmanned and also dismantle its wings in space and attaching into the space station as a counterpart to the station. The Russians have flow more manned space missions that the numbers are impossible to beat that even the current Soyuz rocket has an 95% prefect record (has flown more than 520 missions). I just find it interesting when Russia was in the down in the 90s but they still preformed their space missions and building nuclear arsenals but now they regained their superpower status again officially when it is expensive to improve military capability and continue space flights, how did they do it?

    Is the Space Station a Money Pit? Russia to fill US space flights for the US Space Station completion contract because a lot of funding on NASA
    http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1632890,00.html

    NASA a ticking collapse
    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2007/10/09.html

    The US is on an economic plunge as many of us can admit this, not just housing, high gas prices and bad inflation rates but our country is falling where Russia is greatly improving. You see our problems with immigrations and corporations continuing to outsource for cheaper labor overseas because the US labor is too expensive, we cant even afford to fix our immigration problems not just the borders but the internal problems. What is unique about Russia is they dont have an immigration problem at all, everyone who is not a Russian citizen has to have an entry visa, everyone and anything.

    • Great Scott, another thing to add. most of the books and encyclop.. feature that US is the first to send satellite and BAE is the 1st to have Concorde in civilian supersonic craft. its absolutely wrong. Tu-144 of Russia may look like Concorde. but the technology inside is different. Russian version is more advanced like it has canard and the passenger seating capacity is more than Concorde. the engines are very much superior to Concorde. even the paris air show crash of Tu-144 is becos of French man where they spied on tu-144 with a mirage which has clandestinely taken photos of tu-144 canard. because of its superiority tu-144 is taken for research by NASA in late 90’s (i think 1994) after that Boeing came forward with sonic cruiser which has canard. even the shuttle Buran engines are shortlisted for US space shuttle Orion. this proves that American’s accepted the technology of Russians.

      Another good example was the “spiral project” by Russians in late 1960. Even though Russia is currently under problem as its doomed by US using gorbachev as a tool, but it will come up. Russia will surely come up and Tupolev people ha a new supersonic civil aircraft design Tu-224.

  62. 007India says:

    Great Scott, another thing to add. most of the books and encyclop.. feature that US is the first to send satellite and BAE is the 1st to have concorde in civilian suspersonic craft. its absolutely wrong. Tu-144 of russia may look like concorde. but the technology inside is different. russian version is more advanced like it has canard and the passenger seating capacity is more than concorde. the engines are very much superior to concorde. even the paris airshow crash of Tu-144 is becos of french man where they spied on tu-144 with a mirage which has clandestinely taken photos of tu-144 canard. because of its superiority tu-144 is taken for research by NASA in late 90’s (i think 1994) after that boeing came forward with sonic cruiser which has canard. even the shuttle buran engines are shotlisted for US spaceshuttle Orion. this proves that american’s accepted the technology of Russians.

    Another good example was the “spiral project” by Russians in late 1960. Even though Russia is currently under problem as its doomed by US using gorbachev as a tool, but it will come up. Russia will surely come up and Tupolev people ha a new supersonic civil aircraft design Tu-224.

  63. The summary on the argument about the greater space power `between United States and Russia .

    All countries on the surface of the earth Spy on America with greed,jealousy and hate, for example The soviet union,China ,Japan,Korea,The Arab world and todays Russia have naturalised spies in the USA that feeds them with informations on what the President of America does with his wife in his bedroom ,talk less of meetings on programmes that takes more than a couple to hold.

    What ever the Americans want to do is known to their competitors before the nursery stage.

    That led to a lot of abandoned projects in Russia because they act on tip off of new American endevour without Having the kind of foundation America lays down before embaking on such project.

    Russia made technologies are in no anyway to be compared to that of USA not to talk of Space Technology.

    The Gentle man That says Russia orbitted the moon that America only landed on it is another example of the falling standard of education in europe and a dent to the status of oxford institution you are suppose to know that landing on an outer space surface is far greater a technology to hovering around it because the physics required to launch a rocket on the earth surface is different from that you are required to lift a rocket from the face of the moon this a 50 years technology wide apart between the russians and the Americans in space technology.

  64. [...] Kom til at spekulere på, hvad der egentlig skete med den russiske rumfærge Buran? [...]

  65. Rob says:

    For those who say that the Buran wasn’t a copy of the US space shuttle, you can’t deny the similarities; it definitely wasn’t independent research. As far as the Tu-144 being a copy of the Concorde is debatable. However, the aeronautic innovations of the XB-70 definitely had an influence on both, including the T-4. Surprisingly, no one mentioned the Tu-160 which has a striking resemblance to the US B-1B, or MiG-23’s F-111 likeness. Any one think a MiG-25 looks like an A-5 Vigilante (the prototype had duel rudders)?

  66. Charles says:

    While it’s no child’s play building the Buran space shuttle or the supersonic passenger plane Tu-144, the successes of these aircrafts shouldn’t be determined by how much more payload it can carry or how many months earlier it was built before their European or American counterparts.

    Although the Tu-144 was delivered 2 months ahead of the Concorde, the Tu-144 was a failure because it did not achieve it’s objectives – that is to carry passengers safely and economically. The original aircraft could not fly at supersonic speeds without employing the afterburners and it was much heavier than the concorde due to design deficiencies in the wings as well as in the cooling systems. All these created extra payload problems which severely affected range and operational economics – resulting in the pre-mature retirement of the aircraft. Tu-144 only carried out passenger service for no more than 1 year. While the Concorde had its share of problems, the plane carried out passenger services successfully for over 25 years.

    In a similar fashion, the Buran space shuttle also failed dramatically in that it carried out one and only unmanned test mission. It was never to be put to use again despite claims of being able to carry heavier payloads or other better performance characteristics over the NASA space shuttle. The U.S. space shuttle remains in service as of today after carrying out 122/123 successful launches in 28 years.

    Another obvious mention are in the passenger jets. While the European and Americans are having great successes rolling out new jets one after another, the russians have dropped out of the picture entirely despite claims of superior engineering. The russian passenger jets have been questionable from the get go, and even the Russian national airline Aeroflot purchases exclusively from Airbus and Boeing for their jumbo jet needs.

    My intention here is not to point out who has better engineers. Russians, Americans or Europeans alike have great engineers. But as history tells us, the sole intent of the Russian/Soviet government was to show that they can build better air/space crafts than other countries and nothing else – and to certain degree they proved their point. But their program failed one after another because their technology was only good enough for comparison use. From practical standpoint they seldom succeed which I think should be the greatest and utmost objective. The Europeans and Americans meanwhile have accomplished this. Their vision wasn’t to be better than their neighbors, but to better the lives of mankind through viable means of transportation and space research projects.

  67. Charles says:

    While it’s no child’s play building the Buran space shuttle or the supersonic passenger plane Tu-144, the successes of these aircrafts shouldn’t be determined by how much more payload it can carry or how many months earlier it was built before their European or American counterparts.

    Although the Tu-144 was delivered 2 months ahead of the Concorde, the Tu-144 was a failure because it did not achieve it s objectives – that is to carry passengers safely and economically. The original aircraft could not fly at supersonic speeds without employing the afterburners and it was much heavier than the concorde due to design deficiencies in the wings as well as in the cooling systems. All these created extra payload problems which severely affected range and operational economics – resulting in the pre-mature retirement of the aircraft. Tu-144 only carried out passenger service for no more than 1 year. While the Concorde had its share of problems, the plane carried out passenger services successfully for over 25 years.

    In a similar fashion, the Buran space shuttle also failed dramatically in that it carried out one and only unmanned test mission. It was never to be put to use again despite claims of being able to carry heavier payloads or other better performance characteristics over the NASA space shuttle. The U.S. space shuttle remains in service as of today after carrying out 122/123 successful launches in 28 years.

    Another obvious mention are in the passenger jets. While the European and Americans are having great successes rolling out new jets one after another, the russians have dropped out of the picture entirely despite claims of superior engineering. The russian passenger jets have been questionable from the get go, and even the Russian national airline Aeroflot purchases exclusively from Airbus and Boeing for their jumbo jet needs.

    My intention here is not to point out who has better engineers. Russians, Americans or Europeans alike have great engineers. But as history tells us, the sole intent of the Russian/Soviet government was to show that they can build better air/space crafts than other countries and nothing else – and to certain degree they proved their point. But their program failed one after another because their technology was only good enough for comparison use. From practical standpoint they seldom succeed which I think should be the greatest and utmost objective. The Europeans and Americans meanwhile have accomplished this, which is to better the lives of mankind through viable means of transportation and space research projects.

  68. brbrbr says:

    B-70 aka Concord – are not quite quals to Tu-144, bu som elements[many]of construction, copied, yes.

  69. Sasha says:

    You have your own propaganda in US< so please dont even go there. You all brainwashed

  70. 随着我国物流业(货架)的快速发展,整个华东地区物流业托盘的发展也正以物流服务塑料托盘提升到较国内其他地区更高的地位而推进。重视具有提升区域物流托盘效率功能的专业化和标准化物流
    塑料托盘基础设施建设,打造整体物仓储笼流服务平台。
    南京海佩货架公司将积极推行物流仓储笼业标准化战略,建立健全仓储物流铁托盘服务标准化体系,加快推进物流
    铁托盘装备设施、信息系统、经营管理、服务提供等的标准化,打造最
    先进的仓储设备交易数码港,争取成为国内物流业标准化建设的典范。

    近年来,我国物流业发展迅速,物流塑料托盘业增加值持续上升,已成为推动国家经济持续发展的重点产业。与此同时,物流仓储笼业面临运输和仓储钢托盘成本高昂、产业形态相互割裂等问题,亟需推行标准化战略,以降低成本,
    提高效率提升服务质量,满足产业提档升级的需要。”

    南京海佩货架公司是对物流钢托盘标准化比较重视的公司之一,实施标准化的速度也块。在标准体系研究中注重与很多仓储笼公司进行合作,将重点放在标准的国际通用型上。目前,海佩已经提出了包括物流
    铁托盘模数体系、
    集装箱的基本尺寸、物流钢托盘用语、物流仓储笼设施的设备基准、输送用包装塑料托盘的系列尺术、包装用语、钢托盘大型集装箱、
    塑料托盘用箱、平托盘仓储笼,卡车车厢内壁尺寸,
    铁托盘等。

  71. Eh says:

    Looks is not everything. To make an aerodynamically flyable model is the easiest thing out there. So yeah they look alike, so what? The more important are the engines, electronics, materials etc and performance numbers that go in favour of the Russian machine.

    By the way for over 10 years US Atlas rocket launched by Russian RD-80. US enjoys “inferior” Russian rocket technologies so much that they actually licenced it. And by 2020 are ready to make its own version of the engine.

  72. Eh says:

    Russians:

    – 1st sattelite
    – 1st man in space
    – 1st man is open space (space walk)
    – 1st space station
    – 1st probes on Moon, Mars and Venus
    – 1st robotic space rover (Lunokhod)
    – 1st and largest Hydrogen bomb
    – Behind the whole stealth tech is the Russian Petr Ufimtsef.
    – Vladimir Zworykin is a father of television technology.
    – Alexander Popov is a father of radio
    – Igor Sikorsky with a 1st helocopter

    So yeah I think they did pretty good.

  73. eyefull says:

    All technology is partly stolen and influenced by the doings of others work and others existing technologies.

    The USA was having huge problems with their propulsion systems in the 60’s untill they got Bill Pickering, a New Zealander, to help them with the basic concepts of rocketry fuels and propulsion. They were still using the concepts of Von Braun, captured in the late stages of the ww2. Pickering was responsible for re-desinging the fuel systems and concepts. After that, they started to get airborn, and the ‘space race’ was on….

    Right from when as a child in the 60’s, the west said that the soviets were backward and evil.! Truth is, they were scared of the Soviets advanced technology. They felt they had to decry them with propaganda, afterall, no one will admit that the enemy has Anything better than us…[Except Napoleon who said, "Know (understand and admit all about) your enemy".]. Unlike the western nations, [USA], who had to economicaly fund a class of bouergoise profit takers and suppliers and contractors; the soviets could, and did, put all the state funds they wanted to into whatever projects they desired to. No allocating a large percentage of the money spent for the profit motive, but putting ALL the money into development. [ Also contractors aim for only a satisfactory result, say 80%. As long as their paymasters NASA are happy. That way they can then get more contracts to do more work perfecting the systems, to the 100% level, next year.]The soviets aim was politicaly goal driven, not aimed at further future work. This lasted untill the system collapsed and the money ran out. If the money had been available, the BURAN would still be flying.

    The cold war and the space race is Over!
    I am sickened to see the Billions being spent on ego satisfying space exploration.! Sure, we have all benefited fron the spin off tech from that. [Such as the internet / microwaves cookers etc !]
    But if the money had been targeted into the spinoff techs as goals, we would still have these things, and probably even more and better.
    We desperastely need to find, now,
    cheap, clean, sustainable, Energy – such as developing nuclear fusion.
    Clean water.
    Sustainable Agriculture.
    These need to be our GOALS, not a space race to mars or anywhere else. We can’t just hope that these goals may be possibly found along the way to getting into the outer cosmos. We need to find them first, and now.

    And whoever international alliances and corporations do these will become the ultimate winners in the capitalistic realm. Superpowers in the money stakes. And with that will come political power…..[Remember when the gas was turned off by the Ukranians, and half northern europe froze?]. That was then.
    Forget race, nations and borders, it is all lnternational corporations now. The McDonalds effect…..

    Even if as many as 100,000 of the superior ‘select elite’ were sent as colonists to space, that still leaves a huge market here behind them, to serve and gain profit from.

    Are we to become like the ancient Aztecs? A world of slaves, lesser mortals, who exist for, and work for, and worship our superior “Gods” , who dwell in space…. while our earth is ruined and we suffer because we have put all our efforts into creating ‘Them’.

    Thanks for the great photos.

  74. Hmmm.... says:

    yeah yeah yeah, which shuttle had a long career?

  75. Eh says:

    Buran was the first UAV ever.

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  78. Miguel says:

    Hello,

    thanks for bringing this interesting story.

    For those interested, the Buran-OK-GLI is now in Technik Museum Speyer, in Germany, near Manheim.

    I visited it few days ago.

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