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61 Stunning colour photos from the Victory Day (1945)

Stunning colour photos from the Victory Day (1945)

Posted on August 24, 2006 by team


This was a parade of the Victory, in May 1945 when the World War II officialy ended. First time I see the coloured photos.

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61 Responses to “Stunning colour photos from the Victory Day (1945)”

  1. Anonymous says:

    Parade de la victoire sovitique de 1945…

    Rares photographies en couleurs de la parade de la victoire de 1945 en Russie….

  2. MRK says:

    Thank you Russia for assisting in ending WWII! Sad our politics didn’t enable better chances to cooperate during the “Cold War”. Now there is war and terrorism everywhere Maybe we’ll meet again, someday, in peace (Mir)

    MRK
    USA

  3. renatik says:

    World War II officialy ended after Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing

  4. Denis says:

    Assisting? Heh, such words from americans makes me laugh.
    By the way, USSR fought almost alone vs. Hitler, when German army was undefeated. About 80% of all Wehrmacht losses were on Eastern Front (vs USSR).
    That’s the fact

  5. Rusbear says:

    Thank USA for assisting in ending war against Japan.

  6. Trent says:

    “Assisting?”

    Yes. You know like fighting the Germans almost two full years prior to the invasion of the Soviet Union. Oh, I forgot the Soviet Union was doing another assisting even prior to the invasion of the USSR. You know, like assisting Nazi Germany invade Poland. Then again maybe we could hark back to the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty which is the plug that ignites WWII. You know that little agreement that guarantess Germany’s back; thus enabling the invasion of Poland.

    Then we have those other examples of assistance to Germany such as providing bases for German U-boats and sending war materials to Germany.

    We have not even begun to touch upon the vital war materials that were sent to the USSR during the war. You know such things as feeding and clothing the entire Red Army. How about the fact that 40% of all aviation fuel was sent from American refineries.

    You really should try learning about Lend-Lease.

    • eusebio says:

      Yeah you are talking about Molotov-Ribbentrop rubbish, from the relative security of your island – america, but the Russians have to live with the nazi’s at their doors.

  7. Astra says:

    To Trent and MRK,

    Well, being a Russian I would totally disagree with the word “assisting” myself.

    I think you would at least agree that the decisive turning points of the war and the most bloody and cruel battles were fought almost entirely by Soviet people.
    Whenever you read almost any history book on these battles, you get haunted by these forgotten shells and explosions.
    Eastern front — the largest scale of warfare in history in terms of manpower involved.
    Stalingrad – the bloodiest battle of the world history… ever.
    Kursk salient – the largest armored engagement of all time, one of the largest air battles ever fought (comparable to the whole battle of Britain).. The first ever successful attempt to stop German blitzkrieg breakthrough.
    Battle of Berlin – The 2nd (after Stalingrad) most fierce urban warfare battle.

    ~10 millions military casualties and >10-15 millions civilian (compared to 5.5 million German military casulties and 400 thousand total US casualties),
    ~18 millions survived Soviet WWII veterans (compared to ~16 millions US veterans)

    Certainly we also have to account for lend-lease convoys from US ang Britain which contributed a lot of raw material and weaponry for the victory (especially in the early stages of the war), RAF victories in Air Battles and many other helpful things…

    But I think it is just pathological to refer to Soviet Union contribution as “assistance” in WW-II, but especially in fighting Germany!

    • eusebio says:

      You say right. The only (“big”) thing that the usa’s did was the dropping of the two bombs on civilians of the two cities in Japan, this is a thing that “will live in infamy.”

  8. Vedruss says:

    To Trent and MRK

    Shame on you – ignoramus!

    Don’t you ever look to or think about Russia. Go study first.

  9. 4emist says:

    LEARN HISTORY !!! i’ts just insulting !
    thanks for astra!

  10. Nikolai says:

    Trent

    Maybe you would remember Munich Agreement or, to be precise, “Munich betrayal” first? If Western leaders of that time wouldn’t betray Czechs and Slovaks and punish Hitler instead then it wouldn’t be any WWII at all, not to mention Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty. Moreover your leaders of that time didn’t want any alliance with Stalin at all. That’s why he signed this shameful treaty: he feared that the West wanted to make Hitler and Stalin fight each other and then come and take both of them.

  11. 4yBa4eK says:

    28 millions soviet people dead at WW2

  12. Zarini says:

    Hi there!
    I can understand now how small you know history of Russia!!!
    This site is only for show negative only. If you live in Russia you can see all pictures of economical political and cultural life, if you reed this site and watch TV outside Russia, you can take info just. In the World every country has progress and problems, but why you can’t tell the truth!!!!
    Remember history of England for example! It was all smoothly and soft?
    And you are all onlooking, have not you any problem in life?
    Yes we in Russia have a vital issue – we start to live in capitalist, we do one’s utmost, we try to solve a problem as soon as possible! And you just keep an eye and don’t want understand and to help!
    Were is the Wonderland?????

  13. Romzes says:

    Yeah, guys you better check out history fact’s….
    as far as i remember yankee’s were awaiting ( as been said above) for a decisive turning points…to decide who’s side to stand for…so they stood for us, and you’re trying to say that you did something…..

  14. L says:

    Privet–

    I’m an American.
    I certainly recognize the heroic sacrifices the Soviet people made to defeat the Germans in World War II. It was the Red Army that broke the back of the Wehrmacht, pure and simple.
    If any who survived are reading this, thank you.
    Russians, if your grandfather is still alive, tell him that this American says “thank you”.

  15. aware says:

    Hi all,

    I agree with Hussar. Many people do not realize what was the background of ww2 or more over what was happening few year after the ww2 with people in Eastern Europe. Those are thing worth of talking about but not every country wants to be involved in such disscussion.

    BR

  16. Roil Noise says:

    HAHA!
    the funny thing is who do you see in all the movies,tv shows,documentaries,and as the more popular war toys…?
    the NAZIs!!
    and thats after “beating” them
    so just be glad we arent all speaking german
    right now………and history is just that,history
    its over done move on get over it time for something new!

  17. Urgat says:

    why Poland with army in about 2 times bigger than germany lost that war with such small casualties??? i don’t talk that all poles are cowards. i’m about goverment and high comand they fled and lieve the army and state. how long they command from 1 september 1939???

    PS WW2 was starteв earlier. from atacking Czechia and Hungary. Germany attacked and Poland cuted some pieces from them.

  18. Обычный человек says:

    URA, COMRADES!!!

  19. Hussar says:

    Russian Dude, you seriously need to brush up on your history..AND FACE THE FACTS. It is actually embarassing to listen to you…lmao…Let me enlighten you and others

    a bit….Polish President and High Command did not evacuate from Poland till 18 Sep 39 NOT 1 Sep 39.
    Soviet army was even worse equipped in 1939 so don’t start on the weapon structure or strenghts.
    No Polish Formations fought on the German side during WW2 EVER! Unlike Cossacks, Ukrainians and other Soviet formations.You forgot to study that bit?!!
    Soviet-Nazi pact was anti-Polish and it contained secret protocol http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/nazsov/sesupp1.htm What do you call intended division and

    supression of an independent country? Picnic? Soviet invasion was part of Ribbentrop-Molotov pact signed on August 23rd of 1939, which included a non-aggression and

    trade agreement, and a secret protocol that provided for a German-Soviet partition of Poland and cleared the way for the Soviet occupation of the Baltic states. The Soviet

    invasion force was made up of two fronts – General Timoszenko’s Ukrainian and General Kowalow’s Belorussian. Both fronts consisted of 1.5 million soldiers, 6191 tanks,

    1800 airplanes and 9140 artillery pieces. After heavy fighting, on September 18th, Soviets captured Wilno, followed by Grodno and Lwow on September 22nd, reaching River

    Bug on September 23rd. Polish High Command ordered not to engage the Red Army but only in case of disarming and detaining by the Soviets. Unfortunately, the order

    didn’t reach all units. At first, Soviets were seen by both the Polish Army and population as coming to help them fight the Germans and were not opposed at all, but it was

    quickly realized that Soviets were also invaders and desperate fighting took place. The Soviets halted at a line running from East Prussia down to the Bug River. As you can

    see, Stalin not only wanted Polish territory but also that of Baltic states

    http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/01/21/nazipact.shtml but that I am sure you know since you insinuate that you know history so much better. Have a read:

    http://www.achtungpanzer.com/articles/polcamp.htm
    By the way, the tanks you will see on that page are not German but Polish 7TP tanks but I am sure you also would know that. Poland also signed non agression treaty with

    Germany and Soviet Union. That really helped Poland did it not?! Death of General Sikorsky that you mention has been unexplained till today. No doubt it was suspicious

    especially since General Sikorsky was against any Polish territorial loses to Soviet Union. Thus he became a thorn for many – Russians and British. I would not be surprised

    if it was not Soviet Secret Service that had something to do with his death. Soviet Union had many agents in Great Britain and British were deeply penetrated by the Soviet

    agents. On the other hand, it is possible that someone else caused the crash that killed General Sikorsky (British??). This is still a secret. Perhaps one day the truth will

    come out…. especially when all British WW2 files finally will get declassified.
    I think Soviet porpaganda is still stuck in your head just as is the Nazi one about Cavalry charging tanks. No Polish cavalry ever charged tanks. Let me educate you Russian

    Dude have a read here about the myth of Polish cavalry charging Nazi tanks: http://www.panzerworld.net/fallweiss.html
    as well as here once again (this will teach you fair bit if you care to read it and understand it) http://www.achtungpanzer.com/articles/polcamp.htm
    Also have a look here, it is in Russian just for people like you: http://www.polska.ru/polska/historia/invpoland.html

    Polish Campaign is surrounded by numerous myths such as the destruction of Polish Airforce in the opening hours of the invasion and Polish Cavalry charges against

    German armored units. Both myths are creations of German and even Italian propaganda and are very far from truth. Polish cavalry was active during the campaign and acted

    as horse mounted infantry. One of the most successful cavalry charges took place at Krojanty, where elements of 18th Uhlans Regiment attacked and destroyed German

    infantry battalion only to be counterattacked by German armored unit. Uhlans attempted to withdraw and suffered heavy losses. This event lead to the story of Polish cavalry

    charges on panzers. Polish Airforce was deployed at numerous airfields and although numerically inferior and partially obsolete was very active during the course of the

    campaign (e.g. over Warsaw). Polish pilots shot down in combat over 137 enemy planes. Polish cavalry brigades NEVER charged tanks with their sabres or lances as they

    were equipped with anti-tank weapons such as 37mm Bofors wz.36 (model 1936) anti-tank guns (that could penetrate 26mm armor at 600m at 30 degrees). The cavalry

    brigades were in the process of being reorganized into motorized brigades.
    As for murder of Poles by the Soviets in Katyn and other areas…It was only in April 1990 that the Soviet Union officially admitted that the Polish citizens had been shot by

    NKVD. President of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev handed over to President Wojciech Jaruzelski of Poland the archival documents that listed the names of 14,589

    massacred prisoners and confirmed two other burial sites similar to the site at Katyn: Mednoje and Pyatikhatki.. Shortly after this, at the soviet President’s instructions, the

    Chief Military Prosecutor’s Office opened an investigation of “the fate of Polish officers interned in Kozelsk, Ostashkov and Starobelsk camps.”

    In October 1992, at the instruction of the RF President, Boris Yeltsin, other documents were handed over to President Lech Walesa, including the Politburo decision dated

    March 5, 1940, with personal signatures of J. Stalin, K. Voroshilov, V. Molotov and Mikoyan, and with additional signatures of M. Kalinin and L. Kaganovich, both favoring

    execution. Links below will show you those documents with those signatures of Stalin and others. I think you should read about Katyn to improve your knowledge of history:
    Have a look at Beria’s March 1940 proposal to shoot 25,700 Poles from Kozelsk, Ostashkov, and Starobels camps, and from certain prisons of Western Ukraine and Belarus

    bearing Stalin’s signature (among others)here Предложение Берии – факсимиле: http://katyn.codis.ru/fberia.htm
    CAN YOU READ RUSSIAN?? LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MORE THAN 200 POLES SHOT AND LOOKS LIKE WE KNOW TO THIS DAY WHO DID IT RUSSIAN DUDE – and

    GERMANS DID NOT DO IT! Yes, do study the history.. Here is english version of Beria’s proposal: http://www.katyn.org.au/beria.html
    How about the order: http://katyn.codis.ru/fpolburo.htm
    Wow dude how is your education going right now?;-) That is if you could be bothered to read from the links provided here and face the truth?!
    How about Aleksandr Shelepin’s March 3 1959 note to Khrushchev, with information about the execution of 21,857 Poles and with the proposal to destroy their personal

    files??!!This one should be easy for you to read: http://katyn.codis.ru/fshelep.htm
    http://katyn.codis.ru/
    Also see these:
    http://www.memo.ru/daytoday/5katyn_eng.htm
    Beria’s proposal to try and execute polish nationals in english: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/NKVD_Order_%E2%84%96_00794/B
    Also in Russian so it should be easier for you to further educate yourself:
    http://katyn.codis.ru/kdocs1.htm#beria
    http://admin.smolensk.ru/history/katyn/
    http://admin.smolensk.ru/history/katyn/start.htm
    http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1049114089000
    It was only in the early 1990s, with President Gorbachev’s admission of Moscow’s culpability and the subsequent release by President Yeltsin of documents identifying

    Stalin and Beria as the principal perpetrators, that the truth was finally exposed. This served the process of reconciliation between Poland and Russia.

    http://www.hro.org/editions/repr/2005/11/28.php

    http://www.polska.ru/polska/historia/katyn.html

    http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/12/02/katyn.shtml
    http://www.katyn.org.au/
    Some photos perhaps?:
    http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/katyn_memorial_wall/kmw_murderers.html
    http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/katyn_memorial_wall/kmw_album_mq.html
    http://www.katyn.org.au/iwona.html
    http://www.katyn.org.au/naziphotos.html

    Soviets even executed a Polish woman pilot officer as well:
    http://www.katyn.org.au/mikulski.html

    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80

    %D0%B5%D0%BB

    …”Soviet agents killed 21,768 Polish military officers, intellectuals and priests in the forests of Katyn and other places. They had taken them prisoner when the Soviet Union

    INVADED Poland in 1939. After that meeting, Kwasniewski said Russian authorities promised to hand over 96 volumes of documents related to the massacre, which would

    help the Polish Remembrance Institute conduct its own investigation into the killings.”

    Where were you when the Russian presidents handed over official Soviet State documents proving the evil Soviet act. Documents confirmed that Soviets shot unarmed

    Polish Officers and other people. I think YOU really have to study history.
    Let me educate you further – QUOTE FROM YOUR PRESS: “65 years ago about 22,000 Polish military officers, intellectuals and priests, who had been detained in the

    former Soviet Union in 1939, were shot by Soviet agents in the Katyn forest, 18 kilometres from Smolensk. The case became widely known in 1943 after Nazi soldiers

    discovered 4,100 bodies there.”, have a look at your own Russian press links: http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/03/11/katynfiles.shtml
    Looks like they were not shot trying to cross Soviet border were they?!!!
    You might also want to have a read here and learn bit more: http://www.polska.ru/

    As for USSR supplying Poles with everything they needed is not entirely true. The Polish Army corps, formed in Russia under General Anders, had to be withdrawn during

    the year of 1942 to the Middle East because of lack of food and adequate equipment. Later on, notwithstanding the fact that this decision had been approved by Stalin

    himself, the Soviet Government bitterly criticized this move accusing the Poles that they were not willing to fight with their Russian comrades the common German enemy.
    So much for Soviet aid at that time eh? Have a read – this guy was there, he had contact with Stalin and others personally. Read what he encountered if you could be

    bothered: http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/katyn_memorial_wall/kmw_romer.html
    Ask yourself Dude – why did Stalin agree to formation of Polish forces on Soviet soil especially after killing so many of their soldiers earlier on? Certainly not because he was

    an all around good guy. He did it because he needed help. Practically he was forced into it by the circumstances. Soviet Union was on the edge of being conquered at the

    time by the Nazis. He needed every soldier he could get to use against the Nazis. This however no doubt is too hard for you to see or to even acknowledge.
    So Russian Dude, how is your education going? I bet you have not even bothered the check the links I have provided here for your benefit. I think it is YOU WHO HAS TO

    STUDY A BIT MORE OF HISTORY! It is sad to see that in this day and age, there are still people like you who propagate Soviet and Nazi propaganda to this day. What you

    wrote was actually not only sad but also funny not to mention totally unfair. Ask yourself, if most of the polish soldiers got killed “at the first days of war” as you wrote

    ….then how come so many of them fought all over the world fighting Nazis in Africa, Tobruk, Monte Cassino, Atlantic, Battle of Britain just to mention few, even on the Soviet

    side as you said yourself, LET ME QUOTE YOU: “USSR supplied Polish Army with everything they needed”?! Taking part in the final assault and capture of Berlin together

    with the Soviet forces.. Who was that Dude?! considering you said they all got killed at the first days of war?! Than how come the USSR was supplying Polish Army? What

    was it made of? Ghosts – I thought you said they all got killed “at the first days of war”. How about Battle of Britain? Who were the pilots flying there and shooting down the

    Nazi planes in defence of Britain? Ghosts again?! Ghosts of those pilots that got killed in the first days of war, killed in their Polish aircraft all supposedly destroyed on the

    gound in the first few days of war?! My family and many others suffered at the hands not only of the Nazis but also at the hands of Soviets. When my grandmother and her

    newborn baby (my father) were starving in Syberia as were many other Poles deported by force by the Soviets from their homes, (and NOT RUSHING ACROSS THE

    SOVIET BORDER TO ESCAPE THE GERMANS – Contrary, many of them chose the Nazi occupation rather then the Soviet one….and were heading the other way AWAY

    FROM the Soviet invasion!)there was no Soviet help available! My grandmother survived with her newborn on what she could find in the fields! So much for Soviet help and

    assistance. Dude… you are funny…and I think also very ignorant and anti-Polish. Learn a bit more before you open your mouth. Thankfully the majority of Russians these

    days display a better level of historical knowledge than you.

    Even the enemy knew better THAN YOU:

    “…in general the bravery and heroism of the Polish Army merits great respect.”

    Generalfeldmarschall Gerd von Rundstedt
    Personally right now, at this moment, I have more respect for what Generalfeldmarschall Gerd von Rundstedt said THAN YOU DUDE! Keep studying history and see if you

    are brave enough to face up to it! I bet you will not even bother to check and read all the links I have provided here. Not even those in Russian language.

    • eusebio says:

      Wow!

    • Slaven says:

      You need to remember that Stalin hated even Russian people. He was not of Slavic origin but a georgian. Beria as well. Polish and Russian people are Slavic brothers even though they do have complicated history.

      Glory to Poland and USSR.

  20. Hussar says:

    testing

  21. Hussar says:

    I will answer this in parts… Here we go..
    Russian Dude, you seriously need to brush up on your history..AND FACE THE FACTS. It is actually embarassing to listen to you…lmao…Let me enlighten you and others

    a bit….Polish President and High Command did not evacuate from Poland till 18 Sep 39 NOT 1 Sep 39.
    Soviet army was even worse equipped in 1939 so don’t start on the weapon structure or strenghts.
    No Polish Formations fought on the German side during WW2 EVER! Unlike Cossacks, Ukrainians and other Soviet formations.You forgot to study that bit?!!
    Soviet-Nazi pact was anti-Polish and it contained secret protocol http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/nazsov/sesupp1.htm What do you call intended division and

    supression of an independent country? Picnic? Soviet invasion was part of Ribbentrop-Molotov pact signed on August 23rd of 1939, which included a non-aggression and

    trade agreement, and a secret protocol that provided for a German-Soviet partition of Poland and cleared the way for the Soviet occupation of the Baltic states. The Soviet

    invasion force was made up of two fronts – General Timoszenko’s Ukrainian and General Kowalow’s Belorussian. Both fronts consisted of 1.5 million soldiers, 6191 tanks,

    1800 airplanes and 9140 artillery pieces. After heavy fighting, on September 18th, Soviets captured Wilno, followed by Grodno and Lwow on September 22nd, reaching River

    Bug on September 23rd. Polish High Command ordered not to engage the Red Army but only in case of disarming and detaining by the Soviets. Unfortunately, the order

    didn’t reach all units. At first, Soviets were seen by both the Polish Army and population as coming to help them fight the Germans and were not opposed at all, but it was

    quickly realized that Soviets were also invaders and desperate fighting took place. The Soviets halted at a line running from East Prussia down to the Bug River. As you can

    see, Stalin not only wanted Polish territory but also that of Baltic states

  22. Hussar says:

    Part 2 for Russian Dude…
    http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/01/21/nazipact.shtml but that I am sure you know since you insinuate that you know history so much better. Have a read:

    http://www.achtungpanzer.com/articles/polcamp.htm
    By the way, the tanks you will see on that page are not German but Polish 7TP tanks but I am sure you also would know that. Poland also signed non agression treaty with

    Germany and Soviet Union. That really helped Poland did it not?! Death of General Sikorsky that you mention has been unexplained till today. No doubt it was suspicious

    especially since General Sikorsky was against any Polish territorial loses to Soviet Union. Thus he became a thorn for many – Russians and British. I would not be surprised

    if it was not Soviet Secret Service that had something to do with his death. Soviet Union had many agents in Great Britain and British were deeply penetrated by the Soviet

    agents. On the other hand, it is possible that someone else caused the crash that killed General Sikorsky (British??). This is still a secret. Perhaps one day the truth will

    come out…. especially when all British WW2 files finally will get declassified.
    I think Soviet porpaganda is still stuck in your head just as is the Nazi one about Cavalry charging tanks. No Polish cavalry ever charged tanks. Let me educate you Russian

    Dude have a read here about the myth of Polish cavalry charging Nazi tanks: http://www.panzerworld.net/fallweiss.html
    as well as here once again (this will teach you fair bit if you care to read it and understand it) http://www.achtungpanzer.com/articles/polcamp.htm
    Also have a look here, it is in Russian just for people like you: http://www.polska.ru/polska/historia/invpoland.html

    Polish Campaign is surrounded by numerous myths such as the destruction of Polish Airforce in the opening hours of the invasion and Polish Cavalry charges against

    German armored units. Both myths are creations of German and even Italian propaganda and are very far from truth. Polish cavalry was active during the campaign and acted

    as horse mounted infantry. One of the most successful cavalry charges took place at Krojanty, where elements of 18th Uhlans Regiment attacked and destroyed German

    infantry battalion only to be counterattacked by German armored unit. Uhlans attempted to withdraw and suffered heavy losses. This event lead to the story of Polish cavalry

    charges on panzers. Polish Airforce was deployed at numerous airfields and although numerically inferior and partially obsolete was very active during the course of the

    campaign (e.g. over Warsaw). Polish pilots shot down in combat over 137 enemy planes. Polish cavalry brigades NEVER charged tanks with their sabres or lances as they

    were equipped with anti-tank weapons such as 37mm Bofors wz.36 (model 1936) anti-tank guns (that could penetrate 26mm armor at 600m at 30 degrees). The cavalry

    brigades were in the process of being reorganized into motorized brigades.
    As for murder of Poles by the Soviets in Katyn and other areas…It was only in April 1990 that the Soviet Union officially admitted that the Polish citizens had been shot by

    NKVD. President of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev handed over to President Wojciech Jaruzelski of Poland the archival documents that listed the names of 14,589

    massacred prisoners and confirmed two other burial sites similar to the site at Katyn: Mednoje and Pyatikhatki.. Shortly after this, at the soviet President’s instructions, the

    Chief Military Prosecutor’s Office opened an investigation of “the fate of Polish officers interned in Kozelsk, Ostashkov and Starobelsk camps.”

  23. Hussar says:

    Part 3 For Russian Dude’s benefit.
    In October 1992, at the instruction of the RF President, Boris Yeltsin, other documents were handed over to President Lech Walesa, including the Politburo decision dated

    March 5, 1940, with personal signatures of J. Stalin, K. Voroshilov, V. Molotov and Mikoyan, and with additional signatures of M. Kalinin and L. Kaganovich, both favoring

    execution. Links below will show you those documents with those signatures of Stalin and others. I think you should read about Katyn to improve your knowledge of history:
    Have a look at Beria’s March 1940 proposal to shoot 25,700 Poles from Kozelsk, Ostashkov, and Starobels camps, and from certain prisons of Western Ukraine and Belarus

    bearing Stalin’s signature (among others)here Предложение Берии – факсимиле: http://katyn.codis.ru/fberia.htm
    CAN YOU READ RUSSIAN?? LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MORE THAN 200 POLES SHOT AND LOOKS LIKE WE KNOW TO THIS DAY WHO DID IT RUSSIAN DUDE – and

    GERMANS DID NOT DO IT! Yes, do study the history.. Here is english version of Beria’s proposal: http://www.katyn.org.au/beria.html
    How about the order: http://katyn.codis.ru/fpolburo.htm
    Wow dude how is your education going right now?;-) That is if you could be bothered to read from the links provided here and face the truth?!

  24. Hussar says:

    Part 4.
    How about Aleksandr Shelepin’s March 3 1959 note to Khrushchev, with information about the execution of 21,857 Poles and with the proposal to destroy their personal

    files??!!This one should be easy for you to read: http://katyn.codis.ru/fshelep.htm
    http://katyn.codis.ru/
    Also see these:
    http://www.memo.ru/daytoday/5katyn_eng.htm
    Beria’s proposal to try and execute polish nationals in english: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/NKVD_Order_%E2%84%96_00794/B
    Also in Russian so it should be easier for you to further educate yourself:
    http://katyn.codis.ru/kdocs1.htm#beria
    http://admin.smolensk.ru/history/katyn/
    http://admin.smolensk.ru/history/katyn/start.htm
    http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1049114089000
    It was only in the early 1990s, with President Gorbachev’s admission of Moscow’s culpability and the subsequent release by President Yeltsin of documents identifying

    Stalin and Beria as the principal perpetrators, that the truth was finally exposed. This served the process of reconciliation between Poland and Russia.

  25. Hussar says:

    Again Part 4 for Russian Dude..
    How about Aleksandr Shelepin’s March 3 1959 note to Khrushchev, with information about the execution of 21,857 Poles and with the proposal to destroy their personal

    files??!!This one should be easy for you to read: http://katyn.codis.ru/fshelep.htm
    http://katyn.codis.ru/
    Also see these:
    http://www.memo.ru/daytoday/5katyn_eng.htm
    Beria’s proposal to try and execute polish nationals in english: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/NKVD_Order_%E2%84%96_00794/B

  26. Hussar says:

    Part 5 for Russian Dude
    Also in Russian so it should be easier for you to further educate yourself:
    http://katyn.codis.ru/kdocs1.htm#beria
    http://admin.smolensk.ru/history/katyn/
    http://admin.smolensk.ru/history/katyn/start.htm
    http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1049114089000
    It was only in the early 1990s, with President Gorbachev’s admission of Moscow’s culpability and the subsequent release by President Yeltsin of documents identifying

    Stalin and Beria as the principal perpetrators, that the truth was finally exposed. This served the process of reconciliation between Poland and Russia.

  27. Hussar says:

    Bit more for Russian Dude
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80

    %D0%B5%D0%BB

    …”Soviet agents killed 21,768 Polish military officers, intellectuals and priests in the forests of Katyn and other places. They had taken them prisoner when the Soviet Union

    INVADED Poland in 1939. After that meeting, Kwasniewski said Russian authorities promised to hand over 96 volumes of documents related to the massacre, which would

    help the Polish Remembrance Institute conduct its own investigation into the killings.”

  28. Hussar says:

    also have a look here Russian Dude
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre#Revelations
    At this link: http://www.polandsholocaust.org/katyndiary1.html
    You will see how Polish soldiers had to train with wooden rifles in the Soviet Union – SHOWS HOW WELL ASSISTED THE POLES WERE BY THE SOVIETS EH RUSSIAN DUDE?

  29. Hussar says:

    Russian Dude…..”Soviet agents killed 21,768 Polish military officers, intellectuals and priests in the forests of Katyn and other places. They had taken them prisoner when the Soviet Union INVADED Poland in 1939. After that meeting, Kwasniewski said Russian authorities promised to hand over 96 volumes of documents related to the massacre, which would help the Polish Remembrance Institute conduct its own investigation into the killings.”

  30. Hussar says:

    Part 6 for Russian Dude: Where were you when the Russian presidents handed over official Soviet State documents proving the evil Soviet act. Documents confirmed that Soviets shot unarmed

    Polish Officers and other people. I think YOU really have to study history.
    Let me educate you further – QUOTE FROM YOUR PRESS: “65 years ago about 22,000 Polish military officers, intellectuals and priests, who had been detained in the

    former Soviet Union in 1939, were shot by Soviet agents in the Katyn forest, 18 kilometres from Smolensk. The case became widely known in 1943 after Nazi soldiers

    discovered 4,100 bodies there.”, have a look at your own Russian press links: http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/03/11/katynfiles.shtml
    Looks like they were not shot trying to cross Soviet border were they?!!!
    You might also want to have a read here and learn bit more: http://www.polska.ru/

  31. Hussar says:

    As for USSR supplying Poles with everything they needed is not entirely true. The Polish Army corps, formed in Russia under General Anders, had to be withdrawn during

    the year of 1942 to the Middle East because of lack of food and adequate equipment. Later on, notwithstanding the fact that this decision had been approved by Stalin

    himself, the Soviet Government bitterly criticized this move accusing the Poles that they were not willing to fight with their Russian comrades the common German enemy.
    So much for Soviet aid at that time eh? Have a read – this guy was there, he had contact with Stalin and others personally. Read what he encountered if you could be

    bothered: http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/katyn_memorial_wall/kmw_romer.html

  32. Hussar says:

    Ask yourself Dude – why did Stalin agree to formation of Polish forces on Soviet soil especially after killing so many of their soldiers earlier on? Certainly not because he was

    an all around good guy. He did it because he needed help. Practically he was forced into it by the circumstances. Soviet Union was on the edge of being conquered at the

    time by the Nazis. He needed every soldier he could get to use against the Nazis. This however no doubt is too hard for you to see or to even acknowledge.
    So Russian Dude, how is your education going? I bet you have not even bothered the check the links I have provided here for your benefit. I think it is YOU WHO HAS TO

    STUDY A BIT MORE OF HISTORY! It is sad to see that in this day and age, there are still people like you who propagate Soviet and Nazi propaganda to this day. What you

    wrote was actually not only sad but also funny not to mention totally unfair.

  33. Hussar says:

    Part 7
    Ask yourself, if most of the polish soldiers got killed “at the first days of war” as you wrote then how come so many of them fought all over the world fighting Nazis in Africa, Tobruk, Monte Cassino, Atlantic, Battle of Britain just to mention few, even on the Soviet
    side as you said yourself, LET ME QUOTE YOU: “USSR supplied Polish Army with everything they needed”?! Taking part in the final assault and capture of Berlin together
    with the Soviet forces.. Who was that Dude?! considering you said they all got killed at the first days of war?! Than how come the USSR was supplying Polish Army? What
    was it made of? Ghosts – I thought you said they all got killed “at the first days of war”. How about Battle of Britain? Who were the pilots flying there and shooting down the Nazi planes in defence of Britain? Ghosts again?! Ghosts of those pilots that got killed in the first days of war, killed in their Polish aircraft all supposedly destroyed on the ground in the first few days of war?! My family and many others suffered at the hands not only of the Nazis but also at the hands of Soviets. When my grandmother and her newborn baby (my father) were starving in Syberia as were many other Poles deported by force by the Soviets from their homes, (and NOT RUSHING ACROSS THE
    SOVIET BORDER TO ESCAPE THE GERMANS – Contrary, many of them chose the Nazi occupation rather then the Soviet one….and were heading the other way AWAY FROM the Soviet invasion!)there was no Soviet help available! My grandmother survived with her newborn on what she could find in the fields! So much for Soviet help and
    assistance. Dude… you are funny…and I think also very ignorant and anti-Polish. Learn a bit more before you open your mouth. Thankfully the majority of Russians these
    days display a better level of historical knowledge than you and many of them have been instrumental in getting the truth out.

  34. Hussar says:

    THUS THE END OF HISTORY LESSON FOR RUSSIAN DUDE.
    Even the enemy knew better THAN YOU:
    “…in general the bravery and heroism of the Polish Army merits great respect.”
    Generalfeldmarschall Gerd von Rundstedt

    Personally right now, at this moment, I have more respect for what Generalfeldmarschall Gerd von Rundstedt said THAN YOU DUDE! Keep studying history and see if you
    are brave enough to face up to it! I bet you will not even bother to check and read all the links I have provided here. Not even those in Russian language…but who knows maybe you will prove me wrong.

    I apologise to all who may be viewing this for the length of my reply. I was not able to make a one large post thus the numerous posts.

  35. Hussar says:

    Fair bit of research for Russian Dude’s benefit….

  36. Hussar says:

    My apology if I doubled up anywhere..with my texts..

  37. Hussar says:

    I think I have covered it all. Few duplications due to problems with this server whilst making my posts, but I got it all in there in the end. I am sure Russian Dude will be able to work it out and enhance his historical knowledge.

  38. dan says:

    Certainly, Hitler would not have been defeated without the huge involvement of the Russian people and the sacrifices they made. Also Russia could not have defeated Hitler without assistance of the other allies. I believe that if hitler had never attacked Russia, the allies would have never defeated him. The same situation took place in the Pacific. Had the Japanese not attacked Pearl Harbor, the Pacific island nations, China, and Korea never would have defeated them. The US and Russia were both brought unwillingly into the war yet they were the deciding factors to end it on all fronts. I believe that our nations really are not all that different in many respects!

  39. Hussar says:

    Well it has been a while since my History Lesson conducted for Russian Dude’s benefit. As per my expectations, so far we have not seen a word from the Russian Dude in reply to my post(s). I guess the truth and evidence provided (text and links) was too hard to face. I guess it is easier to stay quiet then to admit being wrong (lying on purpose?), unfair and most of all disrespectful to those who perished and suffered during WW2. I am convinced Russian Dude actually read this but found it too hard to reply to especially after seeing Stalin’s and others signiatures on the death sentence of thousands of Poles as shown in my posts above. Truth hurts as some say. If Russian Dude had some honour, he would have faced, studied the evidence and provided an educated reply. This did not happen despite a passage of time since the time of the origianl posts. As I said, no surprise here. To anyone who reads this, my apology for the repeated posts. It seems the posts did get duplicated at the time due to slow refresh rate and me thinking that my posts already made, were lost and thus posting again. I regret any inconvenience caused and thank you for the opportunity to post here and to expand some people’s knowledge of history. I would also like to thank you for an excellent web site. All the best to everyone in the New Year 2007 – including to Russian Dude who by now I am sure has learnt a bit more about certain parts of history. After all, we are all not that different. We all crave for peace, prosperity, happiness and for fairness and justice. This also means being able to remember, recognise and acknowledge everyone’s contributions during the dark times of our world history and to be able to face up to very painful and confronting at times injustices perpetrated during those dark times.

  40. Alex says:

    Hussar thanks for info. We all really have to know better and rethink our history – just for our peace.

  41. strelok says:

    unfortunately, polish people do not know their country history well. they just do not know or prefer not to know or not to mention the fact, that more than 100 thousand Russian soldiers as POWs (prisoners of war) were got killed in Poland during an after I World War. it is 5 times greater than those killed in Katyn. I do not want to compare, but if you Hussar, mentioned killed in Katyn, you should know about those Russian soldiers perished in Poland too. it is just for your knowledge.

    • Cuban : D says:

      Hi Strelok, I´m not sure if Poles killed or even tortured Russian POWs during and after the war, Stalin did that job with his owns POWs in gulags after the war because soviet POWs where repatriated, Polish forces fighting during the war fought against nazis, so there was no need to take Russian POWs, and if they took any, it cannot be compared with the massacre of Katyn (among meny other massacres), as you know, Poland is one of the most suffered countries in the whole war, the war started there; they suffered nazi brutalities (and soviets brutalities too in early war, as Hussar explained above), during the occupation many Poles where fighting in the battle of Britain, Italy, more other where partisans against the nazis (just for giving an expample) and after all that fighting against the axis and suffering in their hands there comes the Soviets again, who seemed loki didn´t care if Polish fought against nazi occupation and after coming into Poland took their time taking care of their goods and women; and of course continuing their brutalities (some times encouraged by Stalin´s propaganda).

      What I wanted to say is that, at difference with the massacre that soviets made in Poland where most victims where inocent civilians, if Poles did killed (and I don´t mean that it´s true or false) soviet POWs during and after the war, it´s much more justified, because most of soviet soldiers where looters and rapist, so if they killed any, I don´t care so much (in fact, I would do the same). that´s the difference…

      If Soviet soldiers would behave like true heroes and liberators, would help and respect local people instead of doing all they done, history would be another

      • Andrew says:

        >I´m not sure if Poles killed
        Well, of course you are not sure because you just don’t know history!
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camps_for_Russian_prisoners_and_internees_in_Poland_(1919–1924)

        They just didn’t feed them and let them die. This is so humanistic!

        >What I wanted to say is that, at difference with the massacre that soviets made in Poland where most victims where inocent civilians
        They were soldiers or you mean that polish soldiers innocent like babies?
        >it´s much more justified, because most of soviet soldiers where looters and rapist
        All those stories about looters and rapiers have zero evidence. Do you hear me? NULL and NONE. They often printed in russofobic papers, telling about astronomic numbers without any facts. ANY.

        The amount of rapiers and looters in the Red Army was the same as in the US Army or Polish one.

        And here you go, deaths of polish soldiers is killing of innocents and deaths of soviet soldiers is okay deed?
        Are you a nazi?
        BTW, It’s very possible that nazis killed those polaks in Katyn. There are only few documents which could put blame on soviets and even those seems badly fabricated.

  42. tom says:

    good job hussar on telling the truth..and strelok.. i dont know if its true but poles didnt kill russian pow’s.. they weren’t involved in the war and if they were.. they would most definitely not fight along side the germans

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  44. OLUT says:

    http://www.englishrussia.com/images/ww2/victory/parad_194502.jpg

    Hey look! It’s Sylvester Stallone! I knew he was getting up in age, but I didn’t know he fought in WW2!

  45. John Lenin and Paul McCarthy says:

    When I was at the Red Square a couple of years ago, I was blown away by the history…

  46. Tenzin says:

    I am Russian living in Us. And I am very happy to see so many guys from USA admiting the fact that casualties and impact of USSR in WWII were bigger. Thank you guys))

  47. Morgan says:

    Wow… petty people. As someone else said up there, it’s history. It doesn’t matter who did what anymore. What matters is that we remember what not to do or let happen again. Besides, the only history ever taught or rather learned is that from the side that was victorious. All you people readily forget what pivotal roles Canada played as well, but do you see us crying about getting our recognition on the internet.

    • Chris says:

      Canada played pivotal roles in WWII? The comments in this post alone should put things into perspective where Canada belongs in WWII. Canada should never have left home. The Quebecers sure didn’t.

  48. Jo says:

    And so many of their comrades did not make it home, and were missed at this parade.

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